Transacting Value Podcast - Instigating Self-worth

Live your life with a martial arts mentality. Have discipline, integrity and a strong character with physical skills. With time and experience comes wisdom. Balance work, life, and money but realize time, family and faith are invaluable. If you value being grateful for your challenges, then this episode is for you.

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Live your life with a martial arts mentality. Have discipline, integrity and a strong character with physical skills. With time and experience comes wisdom. Balance work, life, and money but realize time, family and faith are invaluable. If you value being grateful for your challenges, then this episode is for you.
 
Today we're discussing the inherent but underrated January core values of Determination, Accountability, and Self-Respect as strategies for character discipline and relative success, with Master Instructor and Owner of the Family Martial Arts Center and one of my personal mentors, Master Gary Wayne. We cover different aspects of constructive, critical, and honest feedback between you and yourself, or other people. If you are new to the podcast, welcome! If you're a continuing listener, welcome back! Thanks for hanging out with us and enjoying the conversation because values still hold value.

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Because you only get 1 shot.

 

That's it. 1 shot. And from the very moment, you're conceit. There's a day a day and a time out in the future, you're gonna die. From the moment you're conceived. And what you do between that moment and the other moment is up to you.

 

And if you wait to be happy, you're gonna run out of time. Alrighty, folks. Welcome back to transacting value. Where we're encouraging dialogue from different perspectives to unite over shared values.

 

Our theme for what is now season 4 is intrinsic values. So what your character is doing when you look yourself in the mirror. Now if you're new to the podcast, welcome. And if you're a continuing listener, welcome back.

 

Today, we're talking our January core values of determination, accountability, and self respect. With 1 of my personal mentors, master instruct an owner of the Family Marshall Arts Center in Mount Dorr, Florida, Master Gary Wayne.

 

So without further ado, folks on Porter, I'm your host. And this is transacting value. Alright, mister Wayne.

 

How are you doing? Doing well, Josh. Looking forward to our conversation. Me too. Me too. First off, let me just say thank you for making some time out of your day. I know you've got a busy life and a lot of things going on.

 

So for the sake of relateability and a little bit for the sake of time, Let's just start out with who you are, where you're from, and what things have shaped your perspective on life.

 

Originally from Louisville, Kentucky, and I live in Mount Dorr, Florida, moved here in 19 94.

 

Been practicing take Wondo and martial arts. Practically, my whole life got black belt when I was 19 74, second on 19 81, sixth on master instructor, 19 96, Seventon Black belt a couple years ago.

 

I can't remember exactly when. And have owned and operated the Family Marshall Arts Center since August of 2001. So I've had a commercial school roughly 23 years. So I've been doing this a long time.

 

That is a long time. I didn't realize it was that long ago. I wish you were 1 of the participants and got black belt with me. So that pence the discussion we're having, I guess. Yeah. Well, in large part, right?

 

Like, you started, I suppose, unwittingly, at the time, a perspective shift for me And a lot of that started around, I'm not sure if it's your brand or or otherwise, but what we were studying and training, you called them the 5 tenants.

 

Of Taekwondo. Right. Right? So courtesy integrity purse Self control and indolvable spirit or anybody listening. Right. And -- Right. -- so I'm curious, where did you come up with those?

 

Or how did you decide on those? Well, those tenants, the founder Teklondo without giving a dissertation on history and development of Teklondo, which founded by a Korean master's name was General Che.

 

He was actually General of the Korean Army during World War 2, and he was responsible for the development of martial arts in Korea, which was called take young at the And then in 19 55 after World War 2 and going through some personal issues he moved to the United States, and try to teach take young to Americans, but take young was Korean.

 

It was hard for Americans to understand. So he changed it in a way he thought Americans could relate to and called it take 1 dough, which means take punch way.

 

And integrated the 5 tenants. So to my knowledge, the 5 tenants were developed by master k in or General Jay, in conjunction with the teaching of the martial arts, take 1 note.

 

So it's his invention. And the world is the lucky recipient of that because take 1 dose, practiced over 50000000 people worldwide as an Olympic sport.

 

So it's come a long way since 19 55, but I'm sure General j realized that if you don't develop a character along with physical skills, then the outcome is gonna be vastly different because the character skills are much more important than physical skills anyway, which you discover later on in life, but for the most part, all those tenants are integrated and all take 1, no train.

 

Well, so okay.

 

If we're talking character over competence, you can train towards a skill set and get better at it obviously and improve. But when you're talking about developing your character, obviously, that's more of a lifelong thing.

 

And for me, I think it's fair to say I was largely unwitting as that developed for probably the first 30 years of my life, until I sort of took more of a conscious effort and an active role in my own growth in humanities, I suppose.

 

Did you find for you that this growth and this process is still continuing even after all you've accomplished?

 

Or are you sort of set in your perspective now? Oh, no. No. No. It's all these things are ideal. And our ideals are just like onions.

 

You know, no matter how many layers you peel off, there's always another layer. So the key ingredient to understanding what all those values are is understanding that you don't know 1 tenth to 1 percent of really their true meaning.

 

Because depending on where you were born and where you live in the world and your life experiences, you're gonna have a different perspective on all of those things, but they're always in constant flux, always.

 

But the basic principles, I'm sure everybody would agree on, don't lie, don't cheat, don't feel be kind to each other, you know, general principles that I think the world universally accepts.

 

It's how we get there is the road. And take 1 no is just 1 path to get there.

 

So I would say, if I'm answering your question, that with age comes wisdom, And the older you get, the more apparent a lot of these things come to you, but usually that only happens with time and experience.

 

And if you're lucky enough to get that time and experience, that's why you see a lot of senior citizens or elderly people really come to terms with life in its meaning and are basically just happy.

 

And I know there's exceptions to that, but I find the older I get my physical skills go down, but my happy quotient goes up. And that's a direct result of focusing on those principles that we just talked about.

 

Yeah. Well, for me too, I suppose in sort of a different scale. But so what we're talking about some of these things that, you know, or indirectly represent Taekwondo and people's interpretation of it as not just a physical skill set.

 

Let's talk about you and some of your personal values in. So this a segment of the show called Developing Character.

 

Developing Character. It's 3 questions as vulnerable or as open as you want to be, and for the record and anybody listening, if your answer happens to be, I'm not sure, I haven't really thought about it, that's cool too.

 

So let's start with this first question, and this is again for your personal values and some relateability to set the tone for the conversation.

 

So the first question -- Okay. When you were growing up as a teenager, what were some of your personal values?

 

Have a car? Have money, have a girl that liked me, get good grades in school and have fun with my friends. Sounds like you're in discussions. Yeah. I think that's pretty much it.

 

Yeah. Yeah. That's about where my head was as well. So let's roll question too then. And you've touched on this a little bit, but for the sake of the flow, the second question is present tense. What are some of your personal values now?

 

Well, personal values, I guess, are interpreted by me because I can only speak for me. I can't speak for anybody else. Mhmm. But personal values are really what you write in your book of truth, and everybody's got 1 of those.

 

So you'll take your book of truth out and you'll write something in it that you believe to be true based on your life experience. And that can be about anything, anyone, or anybody.

 

So let's just say for the sake. Let's take some obvious 1. Let's just take money. So I think everybody would put money as something that they value in their life and then they they write a truth about money in their book.

 

But money is a tool, but some people make it a destination. Like, I have to have a lot of money. So what's a lot of money?

 

Thousand dollars, a hundred thousand, a billion, 10000000, a billion, you know, what is a lot of money to you? And if you make money your destination, and then you'll never be happy because somebody will always have more money than you.

 

So your value in money also is a sacrifice or personal sacrifice you have to make. Like, if you work, you know, it's time away from your family, it's time away from people that you love, it can create health problems.

 

So do you have balance, you know, balance with work and family life home, and these are things you juggle your whole life.

 

And sometimes it takes a very long road down a very long path for you to realize that you were looking at the wrong thing at the wrong time.

 

Instead of having enough money to be satisfied, you looked at money as the end game and everything else had to suffer.

 

So that's just 1 example. Another value that you could have could be with time So time should be valuable because you only got x amount of time on what you spend it. It's gone forever.

 

But suppose you you spend your time away from people you love, away from family that you value your personal time and you wanna go hike the mountains and you wanna go visit India and you wanna sail around the world, and all these things are wonderful things.

 

And I'm not saying you shouldn't do it, but not making your family a priority of your time.

 

Your mom, your dad, your sibling, that could turn out to be counterproductive because the importance of those people, the value of those people are also in your book of truth, and you establish a number to them on how much energy that you're gonna give to them.

 

So it sounds like it's complicated, but in reality, it's not complicated. It's just misdirection that gets you in trouble. And the owner you get, the better you learn to balance all of those things. So, hopefully I would say yeah.

 

I would say that if you regularly visit your book of truth and are not afraid to change some of the things you thought were true either they're not and not be willing to accept the fact that you're making bad decisions like, over smoking, over drinking, not exercising, you get the idea -- Mhmm.

 

-- and not willing to change those things. Then you're headed in a very dark direction.

 

That's 1 thing I like about martial arts is it seems to act as a buffer to a lot of those things because it you immediately see the impact of those things in martial arts because anything that's counterproductive to your your mental health, your physical health, or your spiritual health is always bad.

 

No matter what it is.

 

So you have to learn to recognize focus on that and be willing to change it. So maybe that was a convoluted answer, but that's basically the way I look at. I'm always going through my book of truth and changing it all the time.

 

Even now. Do I get off the phone? I go, oh, dang. I said that. I, you know, and I forgot about that. I need to change that. I got it. Well, it's like you said. It it has to be sort of an open minded development and willingness to grow.

 

I think a lot of that's generational, though, or maybe that's not the right word. It is. You know, based on the face of your eyes, a lot of it is taught, but eventually you come to a point where you have to make your own decision.

 

And people don't realize or most at least myself included. Most people don't realize that the world was not created to make me happy.

 

I was created to make me happy. And the only person that has power over that is me. So if I'm unhappy nurse, the only way out of it are personal decisions that I make and it really aren't dependent on anybody else.

 

I mean, your parents guide you, but they're people too. They make States. And then when you get to be a grown human being, you know, 18, 19, 20, 21, you become an adult. A lot of people play Blaine Gaines.

 

It's their fault. It's my dad's fault. My uncle's fault, my sister's fault. I'm not happy. I don't have because when the truth is, it was the quality of your decisions that put you where you are, not other people.

 

You know, people always disappoint. Always. They're not the same as the perfect person. So if you put your value on what other people say and do about you and for you, then you can never be happy.

 

Never. So the truth is, for all people, you and only you are responsible. For your happiness. And then you gotta figure out what that means to you. That's it. That's hard to do. Some people live their whole life and never figure it out.

 

Well, there's a fact, if you know what it is yeah. If you know what it is, it makes you happy. Well, then, you should do it. Now, I'm not talking about things that are dangerous or evil to other people.

 

I don't mean anything like that. Mhmm. I mean, within the context of personal development and respectful to other people. But I guess that goes without saying, I guess.

 

Oh, well, maybe not. I mean, if you never hear it, you never see it, then maybe it never occurs in your habits of thought, you know, so it doesn't really translate into action at that point.

 

But the trigger, I guess, or this metric of a quality of happiness or a quality of your decisions.

 

Right? This internal focus of control, you start taking ownership, maybe holding yourself accountable or be willing to take criticism from other people who are holding you accountable for your decisions.

 

I think that point in your life when you start taking that active role is at least in my opinion more of the mark of adulthood, then now you can legally drink or rent a car without a fee. Right?

 

So you know, when you're talking about, I guess, philosophy to a degree, but the practical application of that in how you treat people and how you interpret the world, whatever that means in your setting and situation for anybody listening.

 

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You know, when you're talking about I guess, philosophy to a degree, but the practical application of that in how you treat people and how you interpret the world.

 

Whatever that means in your setting and situation for anybody listening. I think that that active role carries a lot more weight. And so I don't wanna get too far ahead of myself here.

 

I still gotta hit you with question 3 in developing character, but I'm curious real quick while we take this tangent. How do you explain that? I mean, you've got students that are 6 years old and younger and 16 years old and older.

 

And then growing adults and of all backgrounds and lifestyles. So how do you encourage Or how do you think it's best to encourage this sort of realization and growth and taking the reins on your perspective.

 

You know what I mean? Like developing this internal locus of control. How do you do that? Well, I mean, that's a that covers a wider area.

 

But what I would say as an instructor, you lead by example. Mhmm. And how you treat your students should reflect what you expect from them as students. You know, with the number 1 thing out of the gate is always respect.

 

Oh, if you don't have respect, there is no learning environment. 0. It's impossible to teach without respect. Impossible. You know, there's the same, you can't make a duck climbing tree no matter how hard you try.

 

That's the same. So if I don't have a student in the school that's not willing to come out of the gate with a degree of respect that is necessary in class they simply cannot be a student.

 

Mhmm. And everybody knows the Boeing and the yes or and the no sir and the mister Miyagi approach and but that's that's not really what I mean.

 

What I mean is they have to believe that I have their best interest in mind. And then my mission is to get them to Black belt. So I'm here to take them there and do whatever I can to help them achieve their goal.

 

And when they feel that, they will feel it emotionally because they can sense it by my actions and my words. They'll feel it physically by the exercises that I give them and the demand I make of them physically to get better.

 

And they'll recognize it spiritually because there's a Nirvana that happened to people when they're in a group of people of common thought, all working toward the same goal, and everybody supports everybody because it takes ability to raise a black belt.

 

Mhmm. So you get a great sense of community. So it's kind of a microcosm of all of those tenants, you know, courtesy.

 

You there has to be a lot of everybody has to respect and be nice to each other to make that happen. Integrity, which means I gotta tell people the truth sometimes.

 

Things they don't necessarily wanna hear, but it'll benefit them. But also, you know, positive reinforcement perseverance. You can't quit when it gets hard. I mean, that's a life lesson. Mhmm.

 

Self controls since we deal with this, there's gonna be a motion, anger, resentment, disappointment, and all those things have to be learned how to be tempered in order to proceed forward an indoneable spirit, which means a lot of enthusiasm is put into what you do.

 

All of that is in every class. And if you repeat that over and over and over, and you do it long enough, then you see dramatic changes in all those areas.

 

Physical development, obviously, mental development, obviously, and spiritual development, obviously. But that's a never ending role.

 

That's what I like about it. Isn't it no matter how much of that you do? There's always another onion peel under it. Mhmm. Always. Now that goes for a 6 year old and a 25 year old and a 60 year old in my class.

 

It's all the same. Everybody wants the same thing. Everybody wants to be happy, everybody wants to be healthy, everybody wants to have peace of mind, everybody wants to be reasonably prosperous, everybody wants to have friends.

 

And everybody went to do something that they enjoy doing and love.

 

Everybody went around the world. And age, as sex, weight, height, religion doesn't make any difference. It's all the same. Maybe it's from my perspective. So that's how I do it. Well, I appreciate that.

 

And for anybody listening, and I guess Moshe went and take it back a oh, man. I don't know. A couple decades now. There was a a story that you told us, which to any grain of truth, obviously, I can't confirm her deny.

 

I wasn't alive. But the way the belt system is structured, right, or anybody listening, and this isn't specific to Taekwondo's is a generic reference.

 

But you start out as a white belt. You know, it's clean. There's not really any sweat or dirt or time equity.

 

Put into any sort of growth at that point. It's brand new and you're just open to taking all the stains and all the dirt and everything that comes with the perseverance that you just alluded to.

 

Now currently, that may mean as you test and belt up, you get a new belt that's the fabric's already died.

 

And whatever color respective to a style. And then eventually, you work your way up until it's a combination of all the above and it becomes black.

 

But initially, based on all the hard work and the effort that you put in and the resilience that you've built, the belt becomes darker and darker and darker. Right? Maybe it's sweat. Maybe it's dirt.

 

Maybe it's effort and energy and all the above that accumulate on the belt because you're not gonna wash the effort that you put into it away. And so eventually over decades, it becomes black. And I think that metaphor still applies.

 

But It's represented by these physical belts now. When you're talking about martial arts, it's -- Right. -- spiritual growth for something. Correct. Best of luck, what are some, I guess, influences that have helped you develop and grow?

 

Because you repeat a lot of the same things now that I was taught decades ago just because it's the foundation and it's always new students coming in and it requires repetition and exposure.

 

But I'm sure over the last 40 some years almost that you've grown.

 

What have you used? What influences have you come across to help shave your perspective? Well, you have to surround yourself with people that are better at what you do than you do.

 

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Well, you have to surround yourself with people that are better at what you do than you do. And I've got a a huge basket of other school owners and other instructors that are much better at this than I am.

 

And we communicate with other on a regular basis on ideas and concepts and but it's not just them. I also surround myself with people that are better at life than I am.

 

I mean, I have a group of people that I meet with. Once or twice a week that are great life coaches because they're great people and they teach me a lot about life. So I seek out my company by the quality of their friendship to me.

 

Because long since I've gone the days of fly by night friends and people that aren't really interested in personal growth and people that aren't interested in philosophical things and I can go on and on and on, long since those people have gone.

 

And I've learned that if I surround myself, with positive minded people that are interested in their personal growth, either physically, mentally, or spiritually, or best all 3.

 

Then I grow exponentially. Mhmm. My growth stops when I stop doing that. Because I look at my life like this. I look at my life like I'm on an escalator.

 

I'm always either going up or I'm going down, but I'm never staying in the same spot. So if I'm not working on my mental development, my spiritual development, and my physical development, I'm going backwards.

 

If I'm doing those things, I go forward, and I try to do something with regards to all 3 every day. It's reading.

 

Reading good books. I watch a lot of TED talks on YouTube. I could go on and on and on. I'm looking for spiritual leaders and educational leaders and emotional leaders, and I seek them out to teach me new ideas and concepts.

 

And it's been said since a doughnut time, the quality of your friends determine the quality of your life. Mhmm. That's it. That's it. If you wanna find out who you're gonna be in the future, look around and look at your friend.

 

Because that's you. You wanna know something pretty wild about that point, though? I was talking to my son, for anybody listening, he's 8 years old now. And we play a game or a game platform, I guess, called Roblox.

 

Most nights each week is we're long distance. And so master Wayne playing that game if you're unfamiliar. There's a bunch of little games within it that you can pick and choose and, you know, you wanna play 1 over another that night.

 

You can bounce back and forth, whatever on the platform. But the point is anybody can send you a friend request.

 

And now I think it's capped at 200 friends Right? So you can message each other, you can whatever, as you go into these different games. But so you've got 200 friends. And so last night, he and I are playing all roadblocks.

 

And he tells me that somebody sent him a friend request, but he couldn't accept it. Right? So as humans in in the real world, If you can't accept somebody's request for friendship, it's probably because it doesn't align with you.

 

You don't know them. You don't like them. You got to fight. Whatever. But in roadblocks, and I'm arguing here any digital platform, if you can't take on a friend request, It's probably something more superficial.

 

So when I asked him last night, why can't you accept that friend request? He said because I have too many friends. I said, what do you mean? You have too many friends?

 

You said, well, I I have 200 friends, and so I can't make any more friends. I said, okay. Well, what do you know about those people and why are they your friends? You said, well, they sent me requests. That's all I know.

 

So I think there's an important distinction here just for the sake of a generational shift, from what you're saying, Master Wayne, to what he's telling me last night, that the quality of your friends, if you think about a digital environment, which is more hybrid now than I think it's ever been or human race, But if you think of a digital environment where anybody like on a gaming platform can be your friend nominally because that's what it's called in the game, you request friends or whatever.

 

A human built that, designed it, programmed it to mimic real life. But what's not mimicked in a digital environment is the quality of character behind those relationships or behind those individuals and screen names and usernames.

 

Or within the relationships that you build more often than not, they stay pretty superficial.

 

And I think it's an important distinction to make that masterwind to your point the quality of the people you surround yourself with, the wise council that you build, to become better at life or spiritually better or professionally more effective carries a different meaning.

 

Right? You've got to be willing to, I think, ask bigger questions, talk about deeper topics, actively take a role in how you positively interpret.

 

Their responses and criticisms. And so we're playing Roblox last night, my son and I, and somebody puts a message on the screen.

 

Not to him directly, just broadcast out to all the players in the game that was more vulgar and less appropriate or an 8 year old audience than was even necessary to play the game. Right?

 

Which happens in real world too. But to combat that, I think it's still falls on us as parents or as instructors or mentors or guides to teach kids how to deal with those things. It may not be cyber bullying or some more extreme case.

 

But maybe it's just what they see online or what they watch on YouTube or a random commentator that they hear I'm commenting on reviews and other videos online that it's still how you interpret the inputs that are around you.

 

That hasn't changed. Case in point, let's say approximately 2000 years ago when the Bible was written. In Proverbs, it actually says seek wise counsel.

 

And now here we are roughly 2020 years later. You're saying the exact same thing and yet it still holds weight, relevance, and merit. Already folks sit tight and we'll be right back on transacting value.

 

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In Proverbs, it actually says seek wise counsel. And now here we are roughly 2020 years later. You're saying the exact same thing and yet it still holds weight, relevance, and merit.

 

So there's gotta be some truth to that as well. I appreciate you bringing up that point and taking an active role each day to increase that quality, I think also pays it forward from your present self to your future self.

 

And then in the future, you can cash in on the equity you've built and be happier.

 

Be more content. I think that was a powerful statement, so I just wanted to interject real quick. But I have 1 more question for you before we close this out master win.

 

Sure. So what are some current challenges that you're facing as you continue to improve your alignment between your values, your perspective, your outlook on life, and then your actual lifestyle.

 

What challenges do you face? I would say other side stepping, getting older, getting older has its own set of challenges that I don't think really apply here.

 

I'll take it in a different direction. I'll just say it like this. This will make sense to everybody. Let's just say for the sake of argument that you live to be 80 years old.

 

Okay? Mhmm. So if you live to be 80 years old, a lot of people that you love are gonna die. Parents, your grandparents, maybe some of your kids, your brothers and sisters, deep friends, they may die naturally.

 

They may die in accidents. They may get murdered. But you're gonna see a lot of people die. Mhmm. That's gonna happen. You're gonna see a lot of other bad things.

 

You're gonna see wars, maybe world wars, more than a couple of wars. You're gonna see global warming. You're gonna see trends of yours go bankrupt. You're gonna lose all your money. You're gonna go bankrupt.

 

You'll get in a car accident. You'll be paralyzed from the waist down. I mean, It's a never ending list of very bad things that you're gonna have to deal with with relation to you. Imagine somebody's a hundred years old.

 

Imagine what they've seen. If you were a hundred years old now, imagine what you'd see in your hundred years. World war 1 or longer than a hundred, I guess, world war 1 and 2 Korean war be it, not war you gave them gold.

 

So so how do you deal with that? You know, the Bible calls it beauty from ashes. And I call it collateral beauty because the darkest night of all time did not turn out all the stars.

 

You have to learn to accept the fact that these things are gonna happen and that if you look hard enough, you'll find something beautiful and spectacular that came about as a result, a direct result of the bad calamity or the bad faith that happened to you or somebody else.

 

And I'll give you an example of that. Mhmm. This is an example of my life. When my dad my dad was 18 years old, And he was drafted in world war 2, and he was on a destroyer in the Philippines fighting the Japanese.

 

He was an anti aircraft gunner. He used to shoot a Japanese arrow. He was 18 years old, and he's on the battleship with a friend. And, of course, you know, they had pen pals.

 

All these guys you know, they had the girlfriends that wrote them from home. And when the mail came in, that was a really big deal because they got communication from home. But he didn't have a girlfriend.

 

So he asked his friend on this battleship, this random guy if his girlfriend had a friend that he could write and He did. So he gave him this girl's name and address, and my dad started the writer and she wrote him back.

 

And then when he got back, when he was when the war was over, he was only in there for about a year and a half, maybe 2, and then the war was over.

 

When he came home, he met her in person and that's my mother. Oh. So if Hitler had not invaded Poland, And the Japanese had the Bomb Pro Harbor.

 

I wouldn't have been born. Man. Now you may think that's a stretch but I don't think that's a stretch. I think that's a perfect example of when calamity hits, when the freight train comes and hits you and it always does.

 

What do you do with it? What do you do with it? You know? Bad things happen to good people. And that's where I think that's where I think a spiritual life comes in, and I'm not talking about religious concepts.

 

I'm not talking about that. Religious concepts are completely different than spirituality, at least by my definition. Mhmm.

 

My definition is spiritual development is connected to my high or power my higher power of mine and how I relate to the universe and what that means to me. So if I accept the fact that that's gonna happen, And then these things happen.

 

I turn to my spiritual development to help me find where the collateral beauty is. And it's always there. And it's not obvious or usually it's not. And, usually, it might take a long time to find it.

 

But if you can do that, if that's a skill you have through prayer, through meditation, through counsel with other people, In other words, asking for help when you need it and a camaraderie of spirit with a really good family and a really good community that creates in itself a wonderful bond of love and nurturing that everybody needs because you're gonna need it a lot in your lifetime.

 

Mhmm. That is I think the number 1 skill set that I'm working on now me personally is because my lifetime, there's a lot of things I've had to deal with.

 

And the more I focus on my spiritual development, the more in tune with that I become in the easier it is for me to accept it, look for the collateral beauty, and move on.

 

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You want more value for your values. Buspruck can do that too. The more I focus on my spiritual development the more in tune with that I become and the easier it is for me to accept it, look for the collateral beauty and move on.

 

Because some people get stuck and never get out. Mhmm. A lot of people get stuck and never get out. So that's in my opinion only, you have a choice to make, and you're the only 1 that can make it. Because you only get 1 shot.

 

That's it. 1 shot. And from the very moment, you're conceived. There's a date a day and a time out in the future, you're gonna die. From the moment you're conceit. And what you do between that moment and the other moment is up to you.

 

And if you wait to be happy, you're gonna run out of time. That's what I'm working on. Well, that's sort of the perfect weapon. You know, I think, especially because for anybody listening, I'm currently active duty in the Marine Corps.

 

And I think when we talk about weapons that carry negative connotations more often than not, because well, the end state is obviously to either encourage or defend against or interdict some sort of violent clash of wills and influence that 1 direction or another when we talk about weapons.

 

But the other aspect to a weapon is protection and it's resilience and it's your ability to understand how and when to use that and then to what effect that ultimately either increases the lethality of a fighting force.

 

I think that was maybe Dave Grossman from on killing, I can't remember. But anyway, to increase the lethality of a fighting force or to make It's bearers more spiritually resilient.

 

And we've got ethical training. We've got laws of war essentially to conduct ourselves by as active duty especially, but to understand when the use of deadly force can be authorized.

 

It's not all chaos despite a natural tendency to seem that way It's ordered and structured in every country no matter the war and no matter the location encourages that.

 

But the people representing those intentions I mean, that that's part of an instant willing obedience to orders and discipline. Right? That's also why a lot of people don't stay in the military for years.

 

That's why that is a sacrifice. Because sometimes you have to subjugate not your values, not your perspective, but your personal intentions to those of a some sort of strategic end state.

 

And I think The challenges that you're describing as Joanna. Your interpretation may be specific to you and your perspective. But the implication of what you're saying.

 

It doesn't matter your background, it doesn't matter your orientation, your setting your background, whatever region of the world. There's all sorts of ways we can interpret what happens to us or what happens because of us.

 

And I think developing a spiritual resilience to that is huge. I mean, that's that's ultimately what's gonna guide how you interpret what's happening and then make decisions based on it.

 

So master win for the sake of time, though. I really appreciate you coming onto the podcast and your willingness just to be vulnerable and and share some of your perspectives with everybody listening.

 

And so if people wanna get in touch with you, find out more about the family martial arts center or just your background what are some ways that people can reach out?

 

I need more information. You can go to Mount Dorrati that's spelled m t.

 

It's abbreviated. M t dora, D0RA karate, KARATE, dot com. My website will pop up If you want information, you can just put your name and number in there, hit a button that comes to me, and I would be glad to communicate with you.

 

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Nice way now. Again, I really do appreciate your time and thank you for coming on.

 

Sure, Josh. It's my pleasure. Acuña Matata, Ooma Tada. Everybody else listening. Thank you for tuning in and joining us as we talk about our core values for January. Of determination, self respect, and accountability.

 

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