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The Healing Power of Storytelling: From Law Enforcement to Law School with Thomas Carchidi
The Healing Power of Storytelling: From Law Enforcement to Law School with Thomas Carchidi
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Season 6

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What happens when a retired law enforcement officer embarks on a new journey of self-discovery? Join us as we chat with Thomas Carchidi, an inspiring figure whose life story is woven with resilience, heritage, and transformation. As the only child of Italian immigrants, Thomas shares how the grit and determination of his parents shaped his values and drove him towards a career in service. His journey doesn’t stop at retirement; he’s now navigating identity shifts and a new chapter in life, including the pursuit of a law degree, and embracing the healing power of storytelling through writing and podcasting.

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Chapters

00:00 - Transacting Value With Tom Karkiti

13:32 - Identity Transition and Coping Strategies

22:54 - Life Lessons From Law Enforcement

37:34 - Reflection on Personal Growth and Resilience

48:57 - Promoting the Transacting Value Podcast

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The views expressed in this podcast are solely those of the podcast host and guest and do not necessarily represent those of our distribution partners, supporting business relationships or supported audience.

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Welcome to Transacting Value, where we talk about practical applications for instigating self-worth when dealing with each other and even within ourselves, where we foster a podcast listening experience that lets you hear the power of a value system for managing burnout, establishing boundaries, fostering community and finding identity.

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My name is Josh Porthouse, I'm your host and we are redefining sovereignty of character.

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This is why values still hold value.

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This is Transacting Value.

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Carpenter, plumber, doesn't matter what you do Lawyer, doctor, infantryman, cop, doesn't matter.

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Do it the best you can, and do the best you can with your abilities that God gave you and give it back to him.

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That's how I live my life.

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Today on Transacting Value.

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Who do you become when your baseline is crime and corruption?

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In fact, after a life with crime and violence and the gritty reality that police work can be, even your options might seem slim.

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Well, today on the show, the author of A Life in Law Enforcement, a police memoir, the good, the bad and the corrupt and retired law enforcement officer out of Long Island, new York, tom Karkiti, is here and he's going to set the record straight.

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Folks, I'm Josh Porthouse, I'm your host and from SDYT Media, this is Transacting Value, tom.

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What's up, man?

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How you doing?

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How you doing, josh, thanks for having me.

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My, uh, my pleasure.

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Thanks for inviting me on the show.

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Absolutely and honestly man with a career like yours and a book like yours, I figure you you should be like the, the commissioner Gordon in the entire Batman series.

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You know what I mean.

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Like your story seems like.

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It's so crazy to me that it was just the only piece missing was Batman.

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What?

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What is this like?

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Let's start at the beginning.

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How about this?

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Let's ground it a little bit for everybody who is just tuning into the conversation.

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How about we start here?

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Who are you All right, where are you from and what sort of things have actually shaped your perspective on life?

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I'm an only child of two Italian immigrants off the boat, as we call it, from Calabria, italy.

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They came in the 50s, off the boat, moved to Brooklyn.

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I was born in Brooklyn when I was a kid, lived there for a couple of years, moved out to Long Island, been always young, but always back and forth because I had family there, italian-american family, very important.

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My heritage, you know Christianity.

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Italian and Christianity go together hand in hand.

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But my parents also wanted me to, you know, be indoctrinated into the American culture.

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They wanted me to be an American.

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You know the American dream.

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So that's basically where it starts.

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I was always an athletic kid.

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I always loved sports, martial arts.

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I started martial arts when I was a little boy.

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All the way up, you know it's one of my loves.

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I'm an American combat karate, full contact karate, black belt or Brazilian jiu-jitsu, black belt.

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Um, you know I love teaching, I love helping people, giving back to the community and, uh, I guess that's a good starting point.

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You know I went to high school, college, grade school, catholic school for eight years, public high school, plain Edge High School.

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Then I went to college, city University, new York, john Jay College, undergrad, long Island University, CW Post for my master's and now I'm in my third yearyear law school, hopefully studying to be an attorney.

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Um, yeah, man.

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So that that's a basic, generic start for me.

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Uh, just to give you an idea about myself, some pedigree info unbelievable.

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What a start.

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Okay, so the american dream, all things considered as an immigrant family not to get political about it, but you know, just for a frame of reference as an immigrant family coming in in the 50s, what does the American dream get qualified as?

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How is that defined?

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A lot different than it does now.

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A lot different than it does now.

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I don't like to compare my parents or a group of people to any other group, um, because everybody has their own experiences and almost every group has been persecuted at some time or another.

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But Italians had a hard way when they came here, you know, they really did.

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Um, it was written in newspaper for everyone to see.

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There was advertisements this job, that job, no Italians need apply.

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I mean, yeah, you can't make this up, you still?

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You know newspaper clippings.

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Um, yeah, my mom and dad would never give it anything.

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My mom came here.

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She started working when she was 15.

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She rose her way up the ranks at, uh, I believe it was beltlantic, then 9x or vice versa, then all the way up to verizon.

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Um, she, she was a manager there for 35 years.

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She retired.

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My father when he first came to America he was going to night school and working all day as a mechanic with his father at a car shop, auto body and mechanic garage.

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And shortly after he came to America he was drafted during the vietnam war so uh, it was no easy.

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There was no easy route, easy way out for them.

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You know, when they came here, they, they worked for everything.

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They had nothing when they came here.

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And now you know, yeah house in long island, house of state, you know, vacation home.

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They worked hard, they did the right thing and, uh, my parents really did live the American dream and I benefited from it, thank God.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And that's only in one generation.

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One generation, dude.

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That's crazy.

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I can only imagine that some aspect of that stubbornness and resilience and family attitude it had to get transferred over.

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It doesn't fall that far that quick.

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You know what I mean?

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100 percent, 100, geez, yeah, unbelievable.

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And then okay, so you, you made your career as a cop.

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With what nypd, what, what did you know?

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no, so after college and graduate school I moved down to maryland.

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I was a police officer in Baltimore.

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I did a couple of years there and a lot of transferred out.

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I went to Montgomery County, which I retired from.

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Montgomery County, montgomery County, maryland it's a suburb in Maryland right on the DC border.

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It's a lot of affluent places.

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It has the Naval Med is there, president goes for his you know, medical treatment there.

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Um, a lot of affluent people, athletes, politicians, supreme court judges um, that's the Potomac area.

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So, uh, that was my route.

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I retired early due to an injury and some uh, health issues.

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I have, thank God, I just got over 9-11 related stage four of a former cancer and I had a herniated disc from the police department.

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So I retired early.

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I came back home.

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I worked as a peace officer in New York State too for a long time, probably about 11 years, swarm law enforcement officer.

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I helped with admin, training and patrol and things like that, and so I have about 15, 16 years of swarm law enforcement experience.

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And you said stage four, lymphoma.

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I had stage four lymphoma.

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I had a it's crazy.

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I had a big tumor in my lymph node, my throat, my neck area, and I had a tumor, nice size tumor that enveloped, wrapped around my T5 vertebrae.

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My back was breaking my back, oh yeah.

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So the treatment for a year and a half was, uh, absolutely torturous and disgusting without, without the grace of God, my strength.

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You absolutely torturous and disgusting without, without the grace of God, my strength.

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You know you spoke about earlier resilience.

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I wouldn't, I wouldn't be here.

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Wow, well, for one.

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Yeah, congratulations, absolutely, thank you.

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That's huge.

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And, as I understand, the stage four not to get too deep into it, I guess, but this is like through multiple systems in your body and then top half, bottom half of the diaphragm right.

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That's what stage four means.

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It's stage four.

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Stage four just generally means it leaves the host wherever it is.

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Say, for instance, you have lung cancer about.

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For this it travels from there to another organ, another portion of your body.

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So for it went from my lymph node to my backbone.

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So anytime it goes from one organ or bone or anything like that to another another location, it automatically becomes stage four.

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This is the way it was explained to me.

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Okay, and then attached to your bone.

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Does that make it bone cancer or just co-located?

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Once you're diagnosed with something, it's always that.

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So, since it was diagnosed as lymphoma cancer, it's still lymphoma cancer, but that attached to the bone.

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So it's not bone cancer, it's lymphoma cancer that's spread.

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Okay, but so what you're saying and what it sounds like to me is even your white blood cells took a hit, not just from treatment, but also because now they're like everything.

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Everything took a hit.

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The treatment I can't even so, minus surgeries, bone punctures Like how do you just I can't even begin.

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How do you even know radiation?

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I'm just million dollar treatment.

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Thank God I have good insurance.

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Car T cell therapy I was in the hospital for 23 days in a hospital setting sick out of my mind.

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Yeah, it was bad.

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So spinal taps I don't know if I said that it was brutal, bro.

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It was brutal.

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OK, well, good thing you had the mindset you had.

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I'm assuming there were some down days, down days.

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There was almost two years of just complete misery and depression.

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But how could you not be miserable and depressed like that?

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I couldn't even get off the couch, I couldn't do anything, I couldn't work out, my back was breaking.

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But I'm a different, I'm a little strange, I'm a different animal, and that's good and bad, because the things that motivate me in life my personality, my A-type, my faith that's what got me through it.

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But sometimes it works against me, because sometimes I'm a little too much.

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I don't give things up, I don't stop.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But yeah, that's it worked.

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It worked for me this time.

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You know my family support system, um, my faith and me just being uh, can we talk candidly on here?

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Can we curse?

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So are we allowed?

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I mean, yeah, we can, we can beep it out, it's fine, no, no it's all right me just being a strong sob yeah yeah physically and mentally.

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I don't have to tell you you're a military guy, you get it.

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You get it.

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Um, some of us are different, right?

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All right, folks, sit tight and we'll be right back on Transacting Value.

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I don't have to tell you you're a military guy, you get it, you get it.

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Some of us are different, right?

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Yeah will goes a long way and I think this is something we learned.

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So most of my career has been in the Marine Corps infantry and active duty until about a year ago, and so for the first 14 years of my career, the one thing I took from that in terms of self-awareness, I guess, or personal development is that your body's going to give up way before.

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Well, sorry, your brain's going to give up way before your body does.

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So if you can figure out a way to push through, you're going to be okay.

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With a little bit of hope and some faith right and maybe water and dry socks, you're going to be okay.

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And what does that do?

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You know not specific to your diagnosis, but in general, these types of transitions like 15 years as a law enforcement officer and then you're not.

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The next morning you wake up and you're not anymore and then all of a sudden you're a cancer survivor.

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You weren't yesterday, you are the next morning.

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You know, like, what does that do for your identity and who you are as a person?

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How do you work through that?

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So I tell you Funny story to me.

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Some people think it's bizarre, but this will tell you about my personality and you'll appreciate this first thing, before I forget, I want to thank you for your service.

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Today's Veterans Day, I want to thank all the veterans my father, family members, friends.

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Thank you for your service.

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You're the real heroes in this country.

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That's number one.

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Number two when I got out of the hospital, I was in the hospital for 23 days with something called CAR T-cell therapy.

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It's a new treatment they give for this type of cancer, for blood cancers, lymphoma leukemias.

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Sick as a dog, I couldn't even.

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It messes you up neurologically.

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Everything.

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You're sick, you're on the floor.

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I couldn't even remember my name about six, seven days in.

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I couldn't make a sense.

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On the 23rd day they let me out.

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I have herniated disc from the police department.

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I'm all jacked up.

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I can't even turn to the right anymore.

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I, 3.30 in the afternoon.

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They cut my catheter out surgery, whatever they want to call it minor surgery.

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Take my catheter out.

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I'm out the door.

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3.30 in the afternoon I leave the city, sloan Kettering, one of the best hospitals in the world.

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7.30 at night.

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That day I was in jujitsu working out with the guys training, because that's me and I don't know any other way.

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When I'm dead gone, we all have an exploration.

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When I'm gone, I'll take a nice nap, I'll relax.

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While I'm here, I have to focus on important things.

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You were asking me earlier what's it like?

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You retire, you leave.

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You have this.

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If you don't focus on something positive at least for me, you're going to spiral.

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You're going to go off into something negative mentally, emotionally, you're going to go into a bad place.

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I believe everybody needs something, everybody needs an outlet, right, whether it's the gym.

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I can't work out or train martial arts like I used to because of my health issues, my injuries.

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I'm never going to be 25 again, right, but I need that.

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I need to be able to help people, teach them what I know, what I've learned.

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I need to be able to compete and play a little bit with my friends in there.

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I need to be able to focus my mind on law school, because once you leave the military I'm sure you know, I hear stories from my dad once you leave and other people once you leave the police department, like that, overnight, it's almost like you lose a part of your entity, your being like you don't know what you're supposed to do.

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You're a civilian now, as compared to being overseas or walking a foot beat in East Baltimore, and it's a little devastating at first.

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So if you don't find outlets, things that make you happy, you know you could definitely spiral downward, quickly, quickly, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, some of that, all of that I agree with entirely.

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Some of that, I think, is because you get so wrapped up in this process the procedural stuff, the administrative stuff, sure, because that's the job, responsibilities and whatever you're doing, right, the cops, the firefighters, emts, military it's the same sort of cycle, I think, where, after an extended period of time in those types of environments, like you said, it becomes a part of yourself, it's a part of your identity.

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You can't view the world any differently and, I think, more importantly, you can't undo that when you don't need it anymore either.

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Right, yeah, so having an outlet makes all the difference, man.

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I mean, that's what podcasting was for me.

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It became my therapy after a while, just talking to people, you know, finding a finding an outlet, because I didn't have to, I don't know, go on hikes in the mornings anymore, go to, uh, you know, physical training in the mornings or fitness tests.

00:17:04.726 --> 00:17:06.028
Well, the same routine.

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It was different, but my perception hadn't changed.

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I still thought I was that person, you know, but I wasn't anymore.

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And so, in your case, you, that's when you started jujitsu, that's when you started.

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No, I started martial arts when I was a little boy, eight years old.

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I always I would wake up saturday mornings, I'd watch the cartoons and then right after that I don't know if you remember, I don't know how old you are they used to have how much 37.

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37.

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I'm 49, a little bit older.

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They used to have, I think on 5, I don't even know if it was Fox back then like Kung Fu Theater, martial Arts Saturday, like the ad, you know they think, the voiceovers, yeah, yeah, I loved it, and ever since then I was Mom, dad, take me to karate, take me to, you know, kickboxing, take me to jujitsu, and it's just something I've always loved, you know.

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Yeah, no, I actually do get it.

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I started Taekwondo when I was maybe six, seven, something about the same age.

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That's awesome.

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Yeah, I got, I got my third degree black belt and I went to college and I enlisted and then you know, I shifted after that.

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But uh, yeah, all sorts of stuff.

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I got uh, blue belt, brazilian jiu-jitsu and then ended up not being able to stay in it, uh, for a while, just deployments and you know whatever else yeah, but they have they have the combatives right, like one of my friends.

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actually, I don't think they do for the marines, but my friend is a uh, I think, a combatives instructor.

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I haven't talked to him in a couple years.

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Great, great guy Randy.

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I used to train jiu-jitsu with him 20 years ago.

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He was combatives instructor for the Army and he's a black belt in jiu-jitsu and he teaches them incredible jiu-jitsu.

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So I don't know if you guys have that in the Marines or anything.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, there is a combatives program and I did it for the the whole, probably first eight years of my career, uh, but then it wasn't mandatory anymore and I didn't have the outlet, because then it's it's training, it's not really like recreation, you know.

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I mean it's, it's a different focus yeah so that that's when I got into crossfit and got a coaching certification and then I could compete again and be more active and it filled the need again.

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Yeah, but I totally get what you're saying, with some overlap and a little bit of guidance.

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It just that, man, that is such a powerful point that you just made, because it gives you continuity in your own identity.

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It gives you something to latch onto as a control and then hope, purpose, faith, everything else that ties into it.

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Well, you know it's funny.

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We talked about this.

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I had a guy that I used to work with the lieutenant the police department.

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He was, I think, the longest acting law officer in all of maryland.

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When he finally retired I think he had 52 or 53 years on the job.

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Some guys can't let it go.

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It's like a pro athlete.

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Yeah.

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You live a certain life.

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It's hard, like how do you go one day from being in the Super Bowl or being in the World Series All-Star game?

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Next day your career is over and you're just I use the term because I am one An average Joe, an everyday Joe in society.

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You know you're not going to, they're still going because they're athletes.

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But I was going to say you're not going to these amazing dinners and this, and that we still are, but on a different level, on a different level.

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So everybody has to retire, so to speak.

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Sooner or later.

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Everybody has to give it up.

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I know my time in jujitsu.

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What do?

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Everybody has to give it up.

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I know my time in jujitsu.

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What do?

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I got A couple more years, I'm almost 50.

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You know, if that, with everything going on, police is done, jujitsu is going to have its day.

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We all are going to have a period where we say enough, we can't do it anymore, for whatever reason health, age, you got to find things you're into and I think that's what helps you cope.

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I think that's what helps you cope.

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I think, absolutely.

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I totally agree, man.

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Learning to let go, I think, is an important part of acceptance, because you don't have to disassociate entirely.

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I think that may be what scares a lot of people in that idea where my identity is going to change at the end of my career.

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I don't know what I'm going to do for sure, right, but I certainly know I can't do this like you just brought up.

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But I think it's important also to remember you don't have to put it all behind you, right, different now.

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So what of it can you take with you that does you some good, that gives you some fulfillment, or whatever you know, being an instructor, in your case, or an author of a book, or finding the next challenge like going to school.

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Dude, three years of law school, I bet you've never read so many books in your life bro and boring legalese jargon a foreign language.

00:21:44.191 --> 00:21:47.999
Miserable, disgusting these are all adjectives that I can use for law school.

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Torturous, miserable experience don't do it.

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Don't do it unless you prepare for mental torture.

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Yeah yeah, well, I guess then it helps that you're a little bit more.

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What's the word hard-headed?

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I am hard-headed, a little bit more resilient yeah.

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Yeah, it's a superpower man.

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God bless you.

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00:22:28.698 --> 00:22:38.730
So from everything we've been talking about, uh, first off, I appreciate you being able to break this apart into a second piece.

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Make some time out of your schedule.

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I know you're busy and got stuff going on, so, um, thanks for coming back so we can finish out our conversation.

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First of all, listen.

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It's great to be back.

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Thanks for having me, and I was looking forward to it.

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I appreciate it yeah, absolutely, dude, absolutely.

00:22:54.230 --> 00:22:56.036
But you talked about all kinds of stuff.

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I mean, we went somehow from what?

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Calabria, italy, to Boston, baltimore, baltimore, yep, baltimore, yep, baltimore.

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And so your experiences, man, just as a person growing through life, what you took into being a cop, did it help?

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Did you have to learn as you went?

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Did you have enough you could stand on everything?

00:23:17.054 --> 00:23:19.280
in life is always a yin and a yang.

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I believe almost everything is a good and a bad right.

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So, uh, I learned a lot from working in law enforcement.

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Um, some good, some bad, you know, um, and you laugh because you understand.

00:23:33.452 --> 00:23:36.278
Being in the military it's amazing.

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You learn so many things coping skills, life mechanisms, right.

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But there's also bad things.

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You take out of it Spiritual, emotional, mental scars, physical scars, personality quirks.

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So I'd say, overall, I got a lot out of working in law enforcement.

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It helped me.

00:24:04.468 --> 00:24:09.595
One thing I liked about you know, I kind of lump in law enforcement and military together.

00:24:09.595 --> 00:24:12.114
You know law enforcement is quasi-military.

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A lot of people that are in the military when they retire they drive it to law enforcement.

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You know, my instructors were all law enforcement, pretty much for the most part across the board.

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I think just my opinion and I'm a nobody, just my opinion in this country you should either do some time in the military or do some time in a law enforcement capacity because it teaches you a certain way to live, um and to conduct yourself, and I don't have to tell you, you know exactly what I mean.

00:24:46.131 --> 00:24:57.255
Uh, you know, if you don't have that mindset, that military demeanor that that way of understanding how life can be.

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Life's a lot of fun, but it can also be very serious and very hectic and chaotic.

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If you don't understand that, you can't differentiate the two, you're not disciplined in a strict guy, you can have a big problem.

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I think I'm very outgoing and charismatic charismatic, I have a lot of fun.

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My friends die laughing when they're with me.

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But I have another side, excuse me, when hits the fan.

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There's another side and I think that's important for a man in society.

00:25:31.387 --> 00:25:34.751
They do so hopefully that answers it a little bit.

00:25:35.713 --> 00:25:39.266
Yeah, yeah, but do you think that's a result, then, of what?

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Was it 15 years?

00:25:41.728 --> 00:25:46.031
So law enforcement yeah, police and peace officer about 15 years sworn.

00:25:46.031 --> 00:25:56.295
So I would say that law enforcement helped turn me into that type of person, but I had it in me.

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You know, I was very uh, I was different when I was a kid.

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I was very timid.

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I was more uh, green behind the ears.

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You know, I came from a great family.

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Um, I was protected and, uh, as I got older I changed because I saw things were very, very difficult in this world and it can be very harsh at times.

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A lot of people don't like to admit it, but I'm a realist, I'm not an optimist.

00:26:23.354 --> 00:26:24.636
I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist.

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So I started working out, going to martial arts, becoming more disciplined, going down the law enforcement road, that route College, graduate school, law school, trying to be more of a disciplined guy and more of a serious guy.

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And when it's time to have fun, you have fun.

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But I definitely believe in a serious mentality.

00:26:52.277 --> 00:26:57.972
As far as a man, my grandfather's old school kind of race, very serious, loving guy, but very serious guy.

00:26:57.972 --> 00:27:01.282
My godfather, my uncle very serious guy.

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My other uncle, who's like a father to me.

00:27:03.228 --> 00:27:10.027
My aunt's husband from Sicily Very serious, fun guys, but very serious.

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So I kind of have a mix.

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That's how I live my life.

00:27:13.925 --> 00:27:15.251
What has it done for you, though?

00:27:15.251 --> 00:27:24.556
I mean, do you find, in hindsight maybe, or at present maybe, that that causes more I don't know conflict in your relationships then?

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Or does it help?

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It's funny.

00:27:28.244 --> 00:27:32.076
It's also a fine line, a strange dynamic right.

00:27:32.076 --> 00:27:37.631
We don't really know where that great line in the sand lies with certain things.

00:27:38.573 --> 00:27:38.732
Yeah.

00:27:41.178 --> 00:27:42.201
I'll try to make an example.

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Every relationship is different.

00:27:43.746 --> 00:27:50.146
I'm heterosexual, so everyone that I'm with is different relationship.

00:27:50.146 --> 00:27:52.803
Every friend of mine is a different relationship.

00:27:52.803 --> 00:27:57.425
You can't really take everybody and treat them equally, so to speak.

00:27:57.425 --> 00:28:00.144
Everyone's equal as a human, but everybody has a different personality.

00:28:00.144 --> 00:28:04.886
So some people love me, they love my personality, they get it.

00:28:04.886 --> 00:28:07.364
My friends and family they get it, they accept it.

00:28:07.364 --> 00:28:10.202
You know I'm more of a pit bull.

00:28:10.202 --> 00:28:12.182
I have the traits of a pit bull.

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You know that's what my family calls me Fun loving, smart, you know, athletic.

00:28:18.476 --> 00:28:32.740
And then another side of something is to occur and I think that's good because I'm protective, I'm loving, I'm a good man, I'm a God fearing Christian and I think, like I said, either you love me or you hate me.

00:28:32.740 --> 00:28:39.715
You know some people, you know, leave that guy alone, he's a little nutty, or, you know, he's not my type of person.

00:28:39.715 --> 00:28:43.058
And then I have friends all over the place that love me.

00:28:43.058 --> 00:28:45.921
I'm going out with friends a little later, so it just depends.

00:28:45.921 --> 00:28:51.925
You know, some people find, let's be honest some people find alpha guys like us I'm sure you're an alpha, you're in the military.

00:28:51.925 --> 00:28:58.471
They find this a little scary martial art people, until they get to know you, then they realize that guy's a big teddy bear.

00:29:00.914 --> 00:29:02.195
Unless you know, something really goes wrong and things go south.

00:29:02.195 --> 00:29:03.258
Something really goes wrong and things go south.

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Then I guess you could see a different side.

00:29:04.479 --> 00:29:14.210
But I think that's important in life and being a good person and being able to live in your environment, to be able to decipher and take yourself out of it.

00:29:14.210 --> 00:29:23.166
You, for example, you come out of the military.

00:29:23.166 --> 00:29:28.619
I have friends that are on active duty, this and that Friends that work in the worst neighborhoods in America.

00:29:28.619 --> 00:29:29.403
It's hard to turn that off right.

00:29:29.403 --> 00:29:34.241
You're, you're in a war zone, you're in a battle zone, and then you come home and you're supposed to be like, just I don't know.

00:29:34.241 --> 00:29:36.972
I don't know exactly what you're supposed to be, but they want you.

00:29:36.972 --> 00:29:40.220
That's what I was gonna ask yeah because we at least.

00:29:40.240 --> 00:29:43.866
Well, that's what I was going to say we at least have this line.

00:29:43.866 --> 00:29:48.363
I mean, it's an ocean in most cases.

00:29:48.363 --> 00:29:50.402
Yes, you know we're not operating domestically.

00:29:50.402 --> 00:29:53.644
You guys have an intersection Right and then you go home.

00:29:54.105 --> 00:29:54.306
Right.

00:29:55.278 --> 00:29:56.974
That changes everything, in my opinion.

00:29:56.974 --> 00:30:02.407
You know, we've got a seven-hour flight to decompress or whatever.

00:30:02.407 --> 00:30:05.465
You've got a seven-minute drive, right?

00:30:05.465 --> 00:30:08.259
That's not the same right?

00:30:08.259 --> 00:30:11.042
So yeah, how do you unpack that?

00:30:11.042 --> 00:30:14.549
How do you work to develop the switch?

00:30:16.057 --> 00:30:17.161
I have to have outlets.

00:30:17.161 --> 00:30:19.244
I have to, otherwise I think we all do.

00:30:19.244 --> 00:30:31.557
I think we spoke about this last time, this last time briefly.

00:30:31.557 --> 00:30:33.424
For instance, I read so much legal jargon, legalese, from law school, it's like maddening.

00:30:33.424 --> 00:30:39.884
I have to read a comic book sometimes, I have to read some silly fiction, I have to go see a movie, go out to dinner, train martial arts with my buddies.

00:30:39.884 --> 00:30:41.496
I have to do something.

00:30:41.496 --> 00:30:42.458
There has to be an outlet.

00:30:42.458 --> 00:30:46.567
Otherwise, if know, if you have a family, that's great, hang out with your kid.

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There has to be something.

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If you make everything every moment, the job, the job, the job you know, like either in the military, in police, anything, a stockbroker, a lawyer, I think it's going to mess with you.

00:31:01.382 --> 00:31:07.247
I really do, and especially in traumatic situations, jobs like we have.

00:31:07.247 --> 00:31:11.721
We see the worst, right, we see the worst, we see the most violent.

00:31:11.721 --> 00:31:14.748
You know it's crazy the things we see.

00:31:14.748 --> 00:31:18.942
So you need an outlet to kind of get you away from that.

00:31:18.942 --> 00:31:23.557
And I definitely have outlets, a hundred percent.

00:31:24.278 --> 00:31:24.558
Yeah.

00:31:24.558 --> 00:31:27.845
Well, and then you also created them.

00:31:27.845 --> 00:31:28.906
I mean, you wrote a book.

00:31:28.906 --> 00:31:32.060
Yes, a Life in Law Enforcement, right?

00:31:32.060 --> 00:31:32.923
Let's talk about your book.

00:31:32.923 --> 00:31:35.079
Yes, sir, are you a journaler?

00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:36.823
Do you normally write stuff?

00:31:37.184 --> 00:31:38.111
No, no, no.

00:31:38.111 --> 00:31:38.694
So it's crazy.

00:31:38.694 --> 00:31:42.183
I keep a little what do you call?

00:31:42.183 --> 00:31:46.635
A pen and then I write notes every night before I go to sleep, my thoughts.

00:31:46.635 --> 00:31:52.087
I've done it since I was in probably 19, but I never wrote a book, nothing like that.

00:31:52.127 --> 00:31:59.736
Just one day I was talking to, uh, a girl I was dating at the time and she just asked me about work and this and that.

00:31:59.736 --> 00:32:10.701
And I'm like, if you could only like, if you can only get in my mind, like, really get in my mind the X-Men, what was the one of my favorite?

00:32:10.701 --> 00:32:13.564
I told you I'm a comic book Professor X, professor X man.

00:32:13.564 --> 00:32:20.048
If you could get in my brain you know, yoda, see what I'm thinking, you would understand.

00:32:20.048 --> 00:32:22.159
Like it's so hard.

00:32:22.159 --> 00:32:27.188
What am I going to sit here for 10 hours and tell you all the things I saw, all the things that go on other cops see.

00:32:27.188 --> 00:32:30.199
So I said you know what I think?

00:32:30.199 --> 00:32:31.060
I'd like to write a book.

00:32:32.223 --> 00:32:32.825
I had no idea.

00:32:32.825 --> 00:32:34.127
I had no idea how to do it.

00:32:34.127 --> 00:32:41.479
I taught myself everything and one day I just said I'm going to start writing notes.

00:32:41.479 --> 00:32:56.567
This one time on the block 400 East Baltimore Street, which was similar to Times Square back in the 80s, you know, strip joints, clubs, drugs, prostitutes, guns.

00:32:56.567 --> 00:33:19.875
Just going to write what happened this one night, when you know we got to there was a shooting and you know I just started putting things, say pen to pad but there is no more of that for me on the computer, just started writing and uh, next thing I know I have like 400, 500 pages of just craziness and uh, that's, that's pretty much how it came about and then I had to edit it.

00:33:19.875 --> 00:33:27.086
I had help from people, some of my friends helped me with the editing process and that's really how it just came about, man.

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Wow, yeah, okay, so this is I mean specifically, it says a life in law enforcement, a police memoir.

00:33:35.647 --> 00:33:38.303
And then you're talking about what does it say?

00:33:38.303 --> 00:33:40.320
The good, the bad and the ugly.

00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:44.000
The good, yeah, the good, the bad and the ugly.

00:33:44.301 --> 00:33:49.586
Yep, so this isn't just like lessons I've learned.

00:33:49.586 --> 00:33:53.064
This isn't just like a workbook to help people journal.

00:33:53.064 --> 00:33:58.786
No, this is like authentic down on the street beat cop experience.

00:33:59.527 --> 00:34:11.896
Yes, we've seen it all before, right, so you're not going to be shocked in the sense like you can't believe these things go on, but you're going to be shocked at the stories that I present specifically.

00:34:11.896 --> 00:34:16.184
You're going to be like what the it's nuts it.

00:34:16.184 --> 00:34:18.128
But the thing is you can't make this up.

00:34:18.128 --> 00:34:39.757
It's all documented witness statements, court cases, cases, police reports, movies, books, news articles, media and when you look back at this 600 citations I'm just throwing a number out there in my book documents when you look at this and you're like this is crazy.

00:34:39.757 --> 00:34:48.887
This is such good things law enforcement does and this is such nuts crazy things that goes on in law enforcement every day.

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And it's like this back and forth.

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And really, if anybody is interested in, like true crime, learning about law enforcement, really learning about it, the good and the bad, if you are interested in that career, you should read it and see what goes on, because it's going to help you make a decision one way or another.

00:35:11.755 --> 00:35:13.061
Is this specific to Baltimore?

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Specific to New York?

00:35:14.858 --> 00:35:15.661
Where is it at?

00:35:16.960 --> 00:35:18.903
I started I was a police officer in Baltimore.

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Then I transferred out to Montgomery County, maryland, which is a suburb of DC inside Maryland, on the Maryland side.

00:35:24.759 --> 00:35:31.260
Then I came back home and I worked as a strong peace officer for 10, 11 years in Brooklyn.

00:35:31.260 --> 00:35:35.949
So it's Seagate Police Department, so it's all over the place.

00:35:35.949 --> 00:35:42.338
Like I tell different stories from different places and I changed some of the names, the locales.

00:35:42.338 --> 00:35:44.764
I don't ever want to call anybody out.

00:35:44.764 --> 00:35:48.898
My book is not to pinpoint anybody, get anybody in the hot seat, jam them up.

00:35:48.898 --> 00:35:51.706
My book is just to tell my story and the general story.

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The only people I name in my book are the people that gave me permission to do good things.

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Everybody else I don't name and I kind of change details and even places I worked at, even though I'm allowed to mention them legally.

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Civilly I don't, because I'm not looking to get anybody jammed up.

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That's not me.

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I wasn't raised that way.

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I just want to tell a story.

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And even places I worked at, even though I'm allowed to mention them legally, civilly I don't, Because I'm not looking to get anybody jammed up.

00:37:27.306 --> 00:37:27.876
That's not me.

00:37:27.876 --> 00:37:29.179
I wasn't raised that way.

00:37:29.179 --> 00:37:31.465
I just want to tell a story, you know.

00:37:32.695 --> 00:37:34.001
Yeah, that's very interesting.

00:37:34.001 --> 00:37:37.036
Well, so what is all of this actually done for you?

00:37:37.036 --> 00:37:47.123
And I don't mean like in terms of monetizing the book, I mean it's the process, the writing, the putting it on paper, the thinking through a bit more deliberately the experiences from then to now.

00:37:47.123 --> 00:37:47.985
What has it?

00:37:48.005 --> 00:37:48.445
done for you.

00:37:48.445 --> 00:37:49.706
It's done a lot.

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I mean mentally.

00:37:50.507 --> 00:37:53.429
I'm a lot sharper.

00:37:53.429 --> 00:37:56.492
You know like the more you learn, the more you do.

00:37:56.492 --> 00:38:00.958
It keeps your mind good, it keeps your mind focused.

00:38:00.958 --> 00:38:04.467
I'm sharp mentally, you know I'm sharper than I was.

00:38:04.467 --> 00:38:06.835
All these things help out.

00:38:06.835 --> 00:38:07.438
It's like building blocks.

00:38:07.438 --> 00:38:11.507
You know college, high school, college, graduate school, law school, book writing.

00:38:11.507 --> 00:38:17.827
It helps you learn and become, you know, smarter at certain things, that type of work.

00:38:17.967 --> 00:38:29.125
Right, it's not going to help me with being an engineer or a bricklayer, but the type of way, the way my brain thinks and works and the way I live my life, it makes me better at what I do.

00:38:29.125 --> 00:38:37.320
Also, like I said, I have a thicker skin because a lot of what I went through, you know I don't really care anymore.

00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:44.856
Meaning like somebody can say something and whatever man like it, just it makes you stronger.

00:38:44.856 --> 00:38:51.934
My thing is, and I truly believe this whatever doesn't kill you in life only makes you stronger.

00:38:51.934 --> 00:38:57.260
Sometimes you've got to be careful because it might not kill you physically but it could break you mentally.

00:38:57.260 --> 00:38:58.304
That's not good.

00:38:58.304 --> 00:39:00.661
You don't want to push yourself too far.

00:39:00.661 --> 00:39:06.496
Military police we see awful things, we go through awful things, but I do believe.

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The more we we persevere in life, the more we go through, the stronger we are.

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I'm not really fearful of too much, hardly anything like.

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I'm not.

00:39:14.202 --> 00:39:16.246
I've seen too much, I've been through too much.

00:39:16.246 --> 00:39:18.360
You know, stage four cancer, what could it be?

00:39:18.360 --> 00:39:22.398
East baltimore people throwing sinks off the roof at me, shooting at like, I don't.

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I don't fear normal things that normal people would.

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So that helped me in that sense.

00:39:28.777 --> 00:39:31.472
But in another sense it kind of desensitized me.

00:39:31.472 --> 00:39:34.704
I'm very, very numb, I'm very hardened.

00:39:34.704 --> 00:39:37.481
The martial arts also good and bad.

00:39:37.481 --> 00:39:42.929
Years of pounding, pounding, pounding my body.

00:39:42.929 --> 00:39:46.797
It's hard, compared to other people it's like a piece of wood, it's like steel sometimes you know.

00:39:46.797 --> 00:39:49.706
But at what price?

00:39:49.706 --> 00:39:52.034
You're desensitizing yourself mentally, physically.

00:39:52.034 --> 00:39:53.938
So I don't know.

00:39:53.938 --> 00:39:55.983
Is it good to me in my life?

00:39:55.983 --> 00:40:00.516
It's good some other people it might not be good for living that lifestyle.

00:40:01.438 --> 00:40:25.427
Yeah sure, well, that was the other thing I was wondering the impact, then, of desensitizing through the process, working through stuff, getting to a point where you can either make sense of it or communicate it or do something with it better, right, I mean, is it still the same, I guess, experience finding appreciation in some little things, or do you find you tend to more look past little things?

00:40:26.289 --> 00:40:44.626
so I'm not gonna lie to you and this is a conversation I just had with a family member the other day and a couple friends I do find, now that I'm older, for a long time I didn't appreciate the small things, I didn't, and I became numb, like desensitized to almost everything.

00:40:44.626 --> 00:41:02.126
I got like little to no pleasure out of out of things I used to love, yeah, and then cancer hit and I literally was in a hospital or at home, back breaking.

00:41:02.126 --> 00:41:03.367
My back was breaking.

00:41:03.367 --> 00:41:20.688
I had a tumor on my back, tumor my throat, chemo, radiation, spinal taps, bone punctures, this that surgery to put in uh ports, horrible, horrible, like uh, torture, really torture, and uh, I think after that things changed a little bit.

00:41:20.688 --> 00:41:22.980
Like now I look forward to more.

00:41:23.961 --> 00:41:33.211
After this I I'm going to go help my friend, I'm going to go probably teach jujitsu for a little bit, teach some techniques.

00:41:33.211 --> 00:41:34.896
I love when people learn.

00:41:34.896 --> 00:41:39.474
Then I might go out with my friend afterwards for a bite, go to a movie.

00:41:39.474 --> 00:41:40.556
Small things, they're very simple.

00:41:40.556 --> 00:41:42.179
I get pleasure out of that.

00:41:42.179 --> 00:42:00.108
I get more pleasure now because I know life is so short and, yeah, I think for a while I kind of lost my way, but I think in a strange, weird way, the cancer thing kind of put things in perspective a little bit for me.

00:42:02.456 --> 00:42:03.478
Yeah, it's interesting too.

00:42:03.478 --> 00:42:16.525
A lot of the the time, regardless of what the cause is, I think, at least in my experience and perception whatever it is that gets us to a bottom shows us everything else, because the light shines through, you know.

00:42:16.525 --> 00:42:20.023
I mean you're looking up from the bottom, you can see everything.

00:42:20.423 --> 00:42:25.422
Yeah, when you're looking down into the water, it gets dark fast and you don't know what's down there, how you're going to react.

00:42:25.422 --> 00:42:38.668
So there's something to be said for diving a bit deeper into humanity, or hanging out on the street and to whatever reason you got to be there, and then recovering through the trauma, through the chaos, learning to process, finding an outlet.

00:42:38.668 --> 00:42:57.615
I love what you've created as a message, as an example, as a process, and I don't know to what extent that's influencing your family and friends there, but you're global now, so it's anybody's guess.

00:42:57.615 --> 00:42:58.858
The impact that that's going to have.

00:42:58.858 --> 00:43:10.644
My theory is some pretty profound insight, though is going to make a very big difference for some people and a very small difference for others, but it makes all the difference to everybody, putting it out there in the first place.

00:43:10.644 --> 00:43:19.449
So I appreciate what you've done, man, putting it on paper, a willingness and a vulnerability to talk about it, to process it and just to take the action of doing it.

00:43:19.449 --> 00:43:22.643
I appreciate it, in case nobody else tells you.

00:43:23.594 --> 00:43:29.784
Well, listen, I really appreciate your time, words and positivity you share.

00:43:29.784 --> 00:43:30.586
Thank you so much.

00:43:31.347 --> 00:43:32.590
Yeah, man, absolutely.

00:43:32.590 --> 00:43:33.800
And also thanks for your time.

00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:39.244
I know it's the evening, I'm sure you're ready to go get dinner, but thanks for making some time to come back and talk a little bit.

00:43:39.485 --> 00:43:40.867
Anytime, I'd love to do it another time.

00:43:40.867 --> 00:43:42.275
We can do it on another topic.

00:43:42.275 --> 00:43:43.237
Anything you want, I love it.

00:43:44.277 --> 00:43:44.759
Absolutely.

00:43:44.759 --> 00:43:51.164
I'm totally down to talk to you some more, man, but for right now, for the sake of time, I really only have one other question for you, please.

00:43:51.164 --> 00:44:15.550
Of all the things you've experienced, the beatdowns that you put on yourself, mentally, emotionally, behaviorally, distancing from people, physically recovering through all your stuff, your experiences being on the force, working through all these things with your family and friends and now looking back, what's it all done for you to actually instigate your sense of self-worth?

00:44:17.617 --> 00:44:18.820
That's a very good question.

00:44:18.820 --> 00:44:19.704
We could talk for hours.

00:44:19.704 --> 00:44:23.646
I'm going to try to put it in a box for you.

00:44:23.646 --> 00:44:33.521
I think everything the good and the bad has taught me Me specifically Never let people put me down.

00:44:35.615 --> 00:44:41.103
There's a lot of people out there that have big egos and big mouths, a false sense of reality, delusion.

00:44:41.103 --> 00:44:45.262
They don't do anything and they claim to be superheroes.

00:44:45.262 --> 00:44:51.159
I don't claim to be much, but in reality I know I've done a lot.

00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:57.820
There's a huge difference and at the end of the day I I absolutely believe without god I wouldn't be here.

00:44:57.820 --> 00:44:59.103
There's something bigger.

00:44:59.103 --> 00:45:01.068
Um, there's no way.

00:45:01.068 --> 00:45:03.940
There's no way this will happen by accident.

00:45:03.940 --> 00:45:04.902
There's something bigger.

00:45:05.485 --> 00:45:06.987
I believe people can believe what they want.

00:45:06.987 --> 00:45:08.481
I have my own personal experiences.

00:45:08.481 --> 00:45:09.880
That's another story for another time.

00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:12.094
But one day we're going to meet our maker.

00:45:12.094 --> 00:45:25.543
We're going to have to present our life and accomplishments to him and I definitely believe it doesn't matter if you're a pizza man, carpenter, plumber.

00:45:25.543 --> 00:45:33.588
It doesn't matter if you're a pizza man, carpenter, plumber, it doesn't matter what you do lawyer, doctor, infantryman, cop, doesn't matter.

00:45:34.155 --> 00:45:39.179
Do it the best you can and do the best you can with your abilities that God gave you and give it back to him.

00:45:39.179 --> 00:45:44.326
That's how I live my life and I think that's how I want to be known.

00:45:44.326 --> 00:45:50.458
And, uh, I think that's how I want to be known.

00:45:50.458 --> 00:45:52.862
And the question to be more specific, I think I'm at a point in my life where I know my worth.

00:45:52.862 --> 00:46:01.248
Even if I don't ever do anything again for the rest of my life, I know I've lived a good life and I I don't allow people to bring me down, to put me down.

00:46:01.248 --> 00:46:02.400
I keep my head up.

00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.219
The only way you can do that is really by being somebody and doing the best you can.

00:46:07.219 --> 00:46:08.443
So it all comes.

00:46:08.443 --> 00:46:09.226
It's intertwined.

00:46:09.226 --> 00:46:09.949
See what I'm saying.

00:46:12.735 --> 00:46:15.380
Yeah, I couldn't phrase it any better, dude.

00:46:15.380 --> 00:46:26.889
I think you summed it up very well, and so, for everybody that's listened to our conversation or watched it in this case, I hope you guys got something out of it as well.

00:46:26.889 --> 00:46:39.188
I hope you had an awesome time watching the conversation unfold and listening to Tommy and his perspective, because, unless I'm wrong, this is one of the first few times you've actually digitized your perspective outside of your book, right?

00:46:40.034 --> 00:46:40.898
Yeah, just a couple.

00:46:40.898 --> 00:46:43.224
I did one or two interviews, but this is really in-depth.

00:46:43.224 --> 00:46:43.865
Yes.

00:46:45.201 --> 00:46:46.186
Yeah, just a couple.

00:46:46.186 --> 00:46:47.853
I did one or two interviews, but this is really in-depth.

00:46:47.853 --> 00:46:52.322
Yes, well, I'm honored to be a part of your journey, man, and I hope you consider doing more down the road or come back and talk to us.

00:46:52.322 --> 00:46:53.505
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00:46:53.505 --> 00:46:54.409
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And if you don't mind, I just want to say one last thing.

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My buddy, he was a police officer.

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He's retired.

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He switched over and retired from the fire department.

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We got some upsetting news.

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His mom has serious, serious cancer and I just wanted to give him a shout out.

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My buddy Eddie and his mom.

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So God bless to them and people out there that are watching to say prayer for Ms Rousseau.

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Absolutely, absolutely.

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