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Again, I'm Porter. I'm your host. And here today, we've got Chad Elders. Chad, what's up buddy? How you doing? All man just hanging out in beautiful Florida. Yeah. I bet it is, man. It's kinda stormy season and it's sort of wet season.

I guess it's always hot and humid and stormy, but Yeah. We're supposed to have kinda tropical depression. Yesterday. And all it did was, like, just drizzle for about 3 hours and that was it.

So right. But, yeah, it's pretty hot right now. It's like usually, like, 95. Every day. And I'm sure somewhere around a hundred percent, hundred and 5 percent humidity?

Yeah. You just walk outside and you start covered as, you know, drenched. Yeah. Yeah. It's I think there's something to be said once somebody comes up with it for like a a body squeegee or something. Yeah.

It reminds me a lot of being at Paris Island. Yeah. That was gross. I was there in January. It was not quite so humid, But by the time we were done was April. So it was just starting to get hot and humid and and sand fleas everywhere.

But is it that level of humid? Like, an April Paris Island kind of thing? No, dude. I just felt like Chris Lion was, like, a whole different level of, you know, the devil's armpit.

Because know. I just remember, like, even walking outside it, you know, 06:00 in the morning and your your cammies are already just drenched in sweat.

Yeah. I don't I don't think it's I don't think it's that bad here. I don't know. It must just because you're out in middle of a swamp and curse island. But it But you guys have a button down shirt in in Slack's.

Right? That's sort of your uniform of the day. Do you like I got I wear the dress blue deltas, the khaki shirt, and the blue pants. Yeah. We're that, basically, from 9 to 6, 07:00. Those don't breathe that well. They're pretty heavy.

Definitely, you don't leave. Yeah. I mean, I appreciate what you're doing. First off, I'm sure it's got its own demands every month, so that was I assume, in a a pretty big adjustment from sort of the regular Marine Corps life.

Oh, yeah. As you with a regular Marine Corps life, you know, you you have a job. And, hey, you know, your boss comes out and says, hey, what do you hey, see a d done before we can all go home.

And with recruiting, if you're really playing into winning hearts and minds, giving people opportunities, like, showing them opportunities that the Marine Corps can provide to them.

But at the same time, you know, military is not on number 1, on 95 percent of people's list. So trying to find somebody who's willing to sacrifice it join the military.

That's stuff's real hard. That or the 1 thing I found out that blew my mind is how many kids from, like, 80 and, like, depression, and anxiety meds, and all those things are huge disqualifiers just for any branches in the military.

So So this is this is something interesting then to that point that I heard recently, maybe within the last month. I was talking to a buddy about this. He's he's in the navy. And -- Yeah. -- so I assume it's all the same DOD standards.

But he was talking about how before anybody gets into the military, if they're diagnosed, with let's just say ADHD or ADD or something to that effect, and they cannot go without 6 months being medicated and be able to focus and do their job to whatever standard applies.

Then they're disqualified, but if they can go longer or 6 months or longer, without being medicated and they can adapt and they can work around whatever these symptoms are. They're not necessarily disqualified even with a diagnosis.

Have you heard anything about this? Yeah. So that that's that was usually par for the course for the military for forever. But now, they just came out with this thing back in February called Genesis.

And, basically, what it is is now that, you know, all all these doctors, you know, put everything in computers and stuff is a big thing and being able to look at what other doctors are giving you, like, prescriptions.

So, you know, they don't like mix and match and put stuff that would, you know, contradict the other medication.

So Genesis. Right? Basically, what it is is whenever you go to the doctor, the doctor inputs these notes and all gets uploaded to this cloud called Genesys. So now with the Marine Corps is able to military is able to do.

It's able to track your whole medical record from Park. Right? Jeez. Yeah. So what I'm sure when me and you went in, the big thing was when you went to go see meps and go see the doctor, it was, hey, just shut up.

Everything's no. Yes means you're in listen but stop stop here. Yeah. No no means, new opportunities. So, oh, okay. So I'll I'll just say no the whole time then. Will be squared.

Sure. So, you know, that's how me and you came in. But now, dude, it's like, let's say, you know, I was trying to put you in and you took ADD meds, 6 years ago, we gotta go see the doctor and it prescribed you the ADD meds.

He's gotta write a letter saying why why he took you off of, and then I gotta provide the doctor's reps all your pharmaceutical, all your pharmaceutical stuff.

So yeah. So we gotta provide, like, all your pharmacist pharmaceutical records and how many times took it and put milligram you know what your prescription was. Like, gross, absolutely wild.

So finding a kid who is legit like, I a clean kid so hard. And that's about, like, the only kind of kids you could put in the military right now. So military as a whole, getting their asses kicked in the in the recruiting aspect.

Do you think that's gonna change? Not maybe not that as a standard. Right? Like, you need to be able to go without meds, obviously, to increase lethality and be effective to a degree in in fight wars.

But that level of scrutiny and depth I didn't know this, but I guess, like, you know, for our medical stuff, the navy has been putting, like, our marine medical stuff in this thing called Genesis for a couple years now.

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't either. So I just found this all out, like, couple months ago.

So they've been using Genesis for a while, the the Navy has. For their own people. So I think it's it's just gonna keep going, and it's just gonna get harder and harder and harder to put kids you know, in the military.

I'm not gonna lie when I came into the incident report. I had a I would say some disqualifying factors about me.

Mhmm. That my recruiter put me in with. So could I enlist, like, into today's standards? We pushing it. Right? It may be getting into the military words drastically more, I guess, strict now -- Yeah. -- or more is prohibited now.

To look at today's standards in how we communicate let's just say in the military and how we communicate what you discuss with anybody in the leadership position is for that matter, the fact that you can discuss with anybody in a leadership position has changed, you know?

Like, I remember -- Yeah. -- I couldn't go talk the squad leader. I had to talk to the fire team leader first, and he'll relay for me. Yep. You know? Don't even dare think about talking to the platoon sergeant.

No way, dude. If I saw him, there was a problem. Yep. Yeah. But now now you're encouraged, you know, to be more intrusive from a leadership perspective, but from an individual marine point of view, take care of yourself.

Take care of your your health. And I think that's why we have a lot of these values in place. Right?

Like, a lot of the things that we have in marine corps specifically, obviously, revolve around these we call them leadership traits. K? Yep. And I think they they help us sort of exemplify and keep working standing level of character.

Right? Mhmm. You know, justice and judgment and and all of these. But but we've also got some leadership principles, and I'm sure you talk to your guys all the time, the ones you you try to get out to boot camp.

Right? So they can memorize them before they leave. And do you think by today's standards, that now these character building traits and principles of the Marine Corps, they've been around for, I think, close to 10:15 years now.

Do you think they still have relevance given today's standards of people coming in? Because it's a different crop. It's a different kid's, different perspective now.

You're right, man. The generation that's coming in now is definitely, like, the why generation. Yeah. Like, you know, with I'd say more you, the the me, you came in, it was just, like, just do what you're told, you know, yes, sir.

And then you execute. This, it's like, hey, I want you to move all this stuff over here. Oh, why do I have to do that? That's what you're going to get responded to. And I mean, if we did that, we'd be laying around. Game over. Yeah.

So, I mean, there's that and I just think, sure this the people above us probably said the same thing about us, but, like, there's just so much, like, the level of entitlement you know, they wanna feel just as respected as they respect you kind of thing.

Yeah. And certain things, yes, but, like, at the same time like you work for me. Or I feel like I should have to tell you why about everything, but this generation, they just wanna know why they're doing everything.

So that way, they can question it. Everything's a question. Everything. You got your phone these days.

You can just look up everything. So that's a good point. I think there's of difference in perspective. Right? Because when I hear you're saying, why do I have to do this? To me, that takes me back to a kid and a belt.

Right? Like, don't worry about why. You're just gonna do it type moments. Yeah. Or, obviously, earlier on in the Marine Corps, it's a similar circumstance where You don't have to ask me why about anything.

The fact is, like you said, I'm telling you to do it, and it's an instant willing obedience to orders. But the framework for that is in a war fighting environment for any of our listeners.

It's not meant to be authoritarian necessarily. It's more from a direction of if we're in a chaotic environment or a battle of some sort, whatever you wanna imagine that as.

And I'm in charge, and I say you need to do these things now in this way, it's because I've got the plan. Right?

As say a platoon commander. And so for you to stop and hesitate, or ask why or waste time or take time. It's things like that where if you hesitate or if you ask a question a second time and it takes up seconds, seconds make minutes.

And minutes in a battle can mean life's spared or lost. Right? And I think that's the perspective that we come in with. Right?

Chad, you and I, but But asking why for the sake of understanding might just be a different perspective where it just needs to be explained more clearer because the perspective that a lot of these kids have isn't desert shield, desert storm from their parents, isn't Iraq and Afghanistan necessarily.

It's this weird middle ground where they don't have a battle on the news to fall back on. So they may not understand why we're doing what we're doing. Do you think that's more the case or it's more from a challenge perspective?

Yeah. Well, how old you when 09:11 happened? I was in ninth grade. Okay. Yeah. So so I was in fifth grade, but I still remember this. I remember exactly where I was, excel exactly what was going on.

You know? And that was in 2001, bro. And and, like, you know, the whole country for the first and probably last time I've ever seen it come a hundred percent together as being, like, 1 team, 1 fight kind of thing.

But these kids now that are joining the Marine Corps, you got a high the high schoolers, I'm putting you down.

We're all born in 2 2004 and 2005. Whoa. So they so you got yeah. So you got to think they never went through 09:11. They disagreed about it in a history book or watched it on YouTube.

So they don't have that sense of patriotism And then you gotta think also when they were born, they've only known that we've been fiddling in Afghanistan and Iraq for 20 plus. Yeah.

So in all, like, the scandals and all the news reports and everything, anti military, you know, like, with the 3 2 guys, you know, pissing on the dead bodies to people shooting up innocent Iraqis, the dude's army that's sold all the government secrets and put them on WikiLeaks.

Uh-huh.

So that's what they're used to. So they they don't have that in my opinion. 95 percent of these kids don't have that sense of patriotism. That mean you had, you know, a 09:11 half. Sure. Yeah. I think that contributes quite a bit.

But then so these kids get in with no real foundation of understanding because they don't have the perspective and or depth of perspective. So once they get into the military, obviously, you as a recruiter, this isn't your first job.

Right? Like, you've got experience in the actual marine corps outside of being a recruiter. So once you receive these kids into the fleet, how do you account for that? How do you, I guess, compensate for that?

How do you teach and mentor? What have you found to be effective? It's kind of like what we talked about before we went on. It was just taking care of your guys. Yeah. Employee your marines in accordance with your capabilities. Yes.

That's probably, like well, that's such a big thing. Because if you take a a guy who got a 35 of an asvab you want him to put put all these programs on your computer, you think he's gonna be getting good at it, you know, probably not.

That 1 dude may be strong as an off. And he might be the guy that you have off of a 50 caliber hike.

Yeah. Sure. So doing the strengths of your marines I think that's where most most leaders get it wrong. I mean, you got the I I tell this to my wife all the time, like, I can count on 1 hand how many officers actually really liked.

Like, truly hundred percent. You know, we're with officers all the time, but there's probably about 4 or 5 that I could count, but I was like, damn, that was a good that that dude took care of me.

He he comes off to me. He knew what I was good at, what I was get if he employed me to my strengths. So and I think where that was such a big thing back in the early 2 thousands, I think we've kinda, like, strayed away from that.

And now the marine corps is all about, like, the mentor mentee program. They're trying to bring it back. You know, because I remember and we had to get, you know, monthly counseling and stuff like that.

But, like, how often were those just kind of forged But, you know, I kinda started bringing that back, especially, you know, with these kids, there soon to be, you know, marines that are in my program.

And to seeing like, hey, what's your 1 month goal? What's your 3 month goal?

What's your 5 year goal? You know? And then you sit down the the month after that and say, hey, man, last month, you said you wanna to do XYZ, how close are you to doing that? What has changed? You know, what's your new 1 month goal?

How you set out and accomplish the things you wanted to do? And I and I think once people start taking you know, you see someone taking an interest in in your life and what you wanna do, I think, that that has a huge impact.

That makes a lot of sense. I mean, you can see it on social media now, and I'm only using social media as a general scapegoat because that's where the majority of your clientele are coming from.

Yeah. Definitely. But you know, to see it now where everybody's just looking for a bit of value in this sea of noise.

And so recognition I think goes a long way of talents, skill sets, capabilities, feelings to a certain degree. Right? I I think all of that plays a role.

Yeah. For sure. And it's just keeping up with the times, like you said earlier, that sort of modern day, present day, today's day and age, whatever expression you wanna use is different than it was 20 25 years ago.

And that's just how things go. It's it's progress not for the sake of, but keeping up with the Joneses so to speak in the world and and perspective as things change.

So in doing that, you mentioned taking care of your guys though as sort of a a focal point for you in your in your career how do you instill that as a balance between you gotta take care of your guys, but you gotta set a good example first.

Right? And then you gotta sacrifice a bit of your time make sure the welfare of your men or your marines in this case is taken care of and and prioritized as well, especially as a recruiter.

That's basically a 24 7 job. Right? Yes. It definitely is, man. Definitely is. And especially dealing with 16, 17, 18 year olds, pouring into them.

And, you know, I had a great leader when tell me, old old lieutenant poe told me, he said, you know, you take care of your guys, and they're they'll take care of you. And, Dave, that that is stuck with me, my whole marine corps career.

Is you take care of your guys and, you know, you sacrifice a little bit of your time. But, you know, when the time comes for when you need to rely on them, rather they're gonna carry you across the finish line.

And I feel like if I can make just that little bit of difference and have an effect on 10 people's lives, and get them to kinda see the light and, you know, what I am trying to do for change -- Yeah.

-- then 10 people affects another 10 people.

Now you get a hundred, then those hundred people affect 10 of their own people, what? Now you're at a thousand. Don't you think that's idealistic? Is is that the reality of in your experience that you found?

Like, does it actually come back full circle? I yeah. I think it does, because trust me, man, I've been I've been doing I've only been doing or, like, recruiting for, like, a year and a half.

But, like, the kids I put in, when I was early on, you know, and they're, like, Lance corporals, And then I got 1 guy who's looking at, like, meritorious corporal. Mhmm.

I like to think that yeah. I like to think that this guy's self described. I like to think, like, oh, I'm the reason he at least, if he took just 1 thing from our short time together that, you know, I kinda changed his perspective on.

For me, that's mission accomplished. I think your efforts have to count for something. You know? If you if you weren't there and another recruiter were there, it's anybody's guess how it could have played out.

But if you as a recruiter weren't there and nobody was, He never'd be where he is now, strength of character, self esteem, confidence, ability to operate as potentially soon to be an NCO.

You know, there's a lot of, I think, veiled things there that even indirectly could tie to you and your your capabilities.

So, yeah, I think it speaks to something. I agree 100 percent. Sure. Well, I mean, even in in your experience, what was something that you that you always try to, you know, employ with the marines under your charge.

It took me a while, which I guess is the the point as a process, but knowing yourself and seeking self improvement, that initiative, that level of being able to that's that's leadership principle that the Marine Corps pushes out for anybody listening, but know yourself and seek self improvement.

But that takes initiative. Right? The difference is any sort of dog in an unfenced yard running around is taking initiative to exercise Go sniff things, go find things out, go do whatever, that doesn't make it effective time spend.

It doesn't make the dog a better hunter, that doesn't make the dog a better fetcher or whatever.

So it still requires balancing that with some guidance and mentorship on behalf of your leadership, but I think it requires a little bit of initiative on your part to know who to seek out. To ask for. Hey, I need help.

I need assistance in this direction. I want to accomplish these things and identifying your goals. Like you brought up with some of these new kids to coming in you know, in in the mentor mentee program, what's your 1 year goal?

What's your 3, 5 year goal? And then you can start finding people that are better able to meet your needs where you're at and help you get to those goals.

That's that's definitely 1 that stuck with me. There's an interesting, I think, dichotomy in that point though. When you get out of the military, I've seen a lot on social media.

I've talked to a lot of people that have said it doesn't do anything to prepare. The Marine Corps infantry, for example, does nothing to prepare you for getting out into the real world.

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When you get out of the military. I've seen a lot on social media. I've talked to a lot of people that have said it doesn't do anything to prepare.

The Marine Corps infantry, for example, does nothing to prepare for getting out into the real world. I don't know if I don't know if you've heard that before, but it's it's a pretty common saying -- Yeah.

-- I think it's a matter of perspective. Let me flip that over real quick. The ability to find somebody to fill your needs for a service or a product is Foundation of team building.

It's talent management. Right? In the Marine Corps as an organization, it's an uphill climb consistently. But as an individual, whether you own a business, work at a company, you're a 6 sigma leader, whatever.

It's about efficiency. So knowing who to talk to, and then putting those people in positions that works well compared to their strengths and capabilities.

Do that in the infantry all the time. You just never realize it. Because I can only work with the people that I have available we'll soak in any talent manager with the resumes that are submitted. You know?

So I I think there's a lot of parallels there that get short changed, especially when it comes to the infantry, but even you as a recruiter, you can't control who I'm not even sure what you call it, applies into the Marine Corps.

Right? Like, you can't control who's interested. But you can gauge you can gauge and tailor the people that are there and help mentor them to where they're able to actually deploy and and go to boot camp.

Right? Yeah. They already have to have a good foundation before you even get them. And we say the same thing in the fleet.

Your recruiter's gotta give you a good foundation before we can help you. You know? Don't thank me. Thank you recruiter type stuff. Yeah. And then and then all these kids fall in love with their drone instructors. Well, yeah.

I mean, they see them put out more effort consistently than they see the recruiters putting out more effort. You guys get them once or twice maybe 3 times a week as opposed to you know -- Yep. -- a hundred and 20 hours a week.

So It's true. Yeah. There there's a little bit of that, but that's what you get being an absent parent, man. Yeah. You know, you only get so many hours a week, and so you gotta make the hours you do have as effective as possible.

Okay. So we've talked about initiative And and obviously, the freedom for some of these kids to decide whether or not they come into the military, your ability to say, Yes.

I wanna be a recruiter or no. I'd rather stick to my old job. For anybody listening, that's not necessarily always in the hands of the individual marine. Sometimes you get told you're gonna go do these things, these collateral duties.

Right? Like a recruiter, a drill instructor, something. But, Chad, in your case, was a recruiter something you volunteered for or something you've all been told?

Bro, out absolutely not. And I and I'll tell you this. About 80 percent of the recruiters in the Marine Corps are all both told to come out here and do this.

Because This is 1 of the checks in the box that you need for career progression. So if you're deciding, you know, like, I'm trying to do I wanna make the marine corps career. I'm trying to do 20 years.

So that way, I can retire. -- 40. Yeah. You have to come out here and do 1 of the 3 special duty assignments, and, you know, 1 of them is recruiting. So I figured come out here know, get it even though I was well told to do it.

And I was like, you know, put my best foot forward because, really, this is like a make or break in a lot of people's career progression when it comes to the Marine Corps. Yeah. So put put my best foot forward.

Now I would say that my personality is really tailored to recruiting just because I was already people person. I like to go out and talk to people. Like, I can carry on a conversation with I'd like to think just about anybody.

Mhmm. So I it kinda works out for me, and then I think it show it shows in my work. Sometimes it's not a good really trying to recruit kids. I'm just down there just bullshit, and then and, you know, the kids turn around.

It's like, you know what? Well, some of the stuff he said is important to me and if I can get that in the framework, that's what I wanna do. Okay. Cool. Well, come on into my office, bro.

By the way, can you do these pull ups? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. III get that. I get that. You said it wasn't something that you volunteered to do But now that you got told to do it, you may as well put your best foot forward.

I think that's an underrated principle, man. I'm gonna give you credit right now, especially saying it in public. I don't think people atone for that or answer to that give that answer as often as they should.

Right? You can't always get what you want. Who is that rolling stones, I think? Sometimes you start getting opportunities that aren't at face value actual opportunities because they don't match what you want.

Right? There's a a buddy of mine. Matter of fact, so he's an entrepreneur of sorts, and he started out, I don't know, 15 20 years ago.

With a house cleaning business, upholstery, but residential upholstery cleaning. And eventually, he built it out, you know, cleaning curtains, cleaning rugs, that kind of thing.

And eventually, he built it out where he had a few different trucks, a few different crews, and they went around a few different houses, and he did pretty well for himself.

And then that fell through and he sold it. And Anyway, about a decade ago almost.

He bought up a piece of land on the side of a road, 2 lane road that had a fruit stand on it. And he said, And I quote, well, I guess I'm a farmer now, so I better figure out how to make these things grow.

And that was it, you know, he he took what was handed to him and made it a beneficial opportunity. You know? Like, you don't have to like wearing suits. You don't have to like shaving every day.

You don't have to like haircuts every 1 to 2 weeks, you don't even really have to like the Marine Corps for what it is. But as somebody present day, Trying to enlist into the military, let's just say, into the marine corps.

You at least owe it to yourself for 4 years after you do no matter how much you dislike it in the moment, to put your best foot forward.

And -- Yeah. -- you know, show yourself well and and build your competence. And build your confidence and your image.

Right? Do you find that to be, I guess, a difficult lesson to broach and bring up? Yeah. Because, I mean, you gotta think the first 2 years in your Marine Corps career, I think, are, like, the worst.

Yeah. You know? Until you kinda see, like, once you start getting some rings of your charge, you kinda see the light in the tunnel.

But what I tell a lot of people, what I found in my life is, bro, 4 years, and in the military are going to set you up for 60, 70, you know, however many years live years of success.

Yeah. Like like, illigent does, because you'll this must just be a brain core thing. But when you come to work in the brain core, you know, most of everybody wants to be there.

Most of everybody in the ring core is competitive. So they're always pushing themselves in in in response pushing you to be better than who you are when you came through the door that morning.

And even if you like it or not, they're gonna push you to be better. Sure. Now when you go to a civilian job, I don't know, wherever, you show up to work, shoot man 90 percent of the people that are there, hate their job.

And they don't wanna be there. And they're just punching the clock just to punch the clock. You know? That's 1 thing the Ringboard does is you get these people who wanna push themselves in a return or push you to be better.

I honestly wouldn't have joined the marines if my recruiter didn't push me to be better. Because I was I was thinking, like, doing the navy.

But now, I'm so happy I picked the marine corps just just because of that. And, you know, if he wouldn't have pushed me, then I wouldn't have joined. And then also if my corporal whenever I was coming up brand new in the Marine Corps.

If he didn't push me, bro, I would never start college. Yeah. It's such a procrastinator. And he he asked me, you know, we'll go back to those little counseling things we're talking about.

Hey, you know, a month ago, you said, you know, you wanted to start college, where are you at with start college? I'm like, well, you know, I haven't really started.

I got I'm busy. You know, he's like, hey, screw that. Call your high school, get your transcripts. We're gonna get you enrolled in college today. Let's go to the education center. I was like, oh, shit.

So so he's, like, he's, like, grab your shit. We're gonna go to the education center and get your own college. Shit. And 2 days later, an acceptance letter from Eric Military University saying you're ready to take first class.

Wow. Yeah. So if it wasn't for somebody else, pushing me past what I thought were my limits, man. I don't know where I'd be today.

Because my endgame was to do 4 years run take the benefits and run and get out. But now I, or fall in love with Blake to bring forth. And it's not even like the rules and the restrictions and record, it's it's more the people.

Sure. Because you make you know, in high school, you you make all these friends and stuff, but looking back now, I graduated high school 12 years ago, and and looking back, like, how many people do I talk to from high school?

Mhmm. I think I'm sure they're Facebook friends with me, but do I legit talk to them?

No way. But then there's people I met in the Marine Corps 8 years ago. Who I call up to this day and, you know, we talk, see how we're doing, and, like, basically judge each other on where where we made it.

Yeah. But like I said, like, the even the people he came up in the Marine Corps with, they're like, dang, man.

They just depend on staff sergeant or all they just got the bachelor's degree. Fuck. I suck. I need to start working harder to get there. Yeah. You know? So the competitive nature, like, you know, for all you biblical people out there.

There's the scripture in the bible, it says iron iron sharp sharpens iron. Uh-huh. So and I I feel like that's 1 thing the Marine Corps just does better than everybody else in my opinion.

And and I think it's evident too because once people get out of the military, let's just say out of the marine corps, you can see it.

For life, people carry differently, people act differently, people speak differently, responding challenges. And for the most part, with a grand assault here, cope with issues better.

Yeah. And and yeah. I think that speaks for quite a lot. I I understand that you've gotta get back to work. So again, I appreciate you being able to take some time out of your How do you schedule?

I got I got parents here waiting for me to send their kids to boot camp, like, literally right now. Alright. Well, don't don't let me hold you up, man.

I I appreciate the time you did have so we could talk for a little bit and that you contribute to the podcast I just wanna say if anybody wants to reach out to you or if they're interested in in enlisting or or whatever, are you on social media?

Where can they find you?

What are some options? Yeah, man. So you're gonna laugh about this. But I I am on Instagram. You can follow me at a okay recruiter. K. So yeah. Man, and and even if it's professional, it doesn't have to be marine core stuff.

I got people to reach out to me all the time, but just dad out here doing dad things and just taking care of people the way I'd want people to take care of, like, my kids.

So -- Sure. -- you know, I cut out all bullshit and just tell you straight up how it is.

And from there, it's your decision on what you wanna do. So for any of our listeners who might be interested in talking about recruiting or anything otherwise, Chad Uters related.

Chad, I'll tag you on the post for this episode. And I'll have a okay recruiter tagged in the photos. So anybody who finds those ads or those posts, you'll be able to click on that, and it'll take you to Instagram.

You can send a message as well. And for anybody else that doesn't have Instagram, you'll be able to track them down on Facebook as well.

We'll throw a post for that and I'll tag you there so you'll be able to find anything or or contact you about anything you might want.

But I don't wanna hold you up, man. I really appreciate it. Thanks for being able to sit down and talk for a bit and lend you perspective.

Alrighty, folks. That rounds out this interview that takes up all our time, but I appreciate you carving a little bit of your day out to listen to our conversation and join us talking about honor initiative and freedom.

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