Be Your Own Best Friend

Yes, we have to make choices that may or may not be easy in a moment. But when we're listening to our truth self. You're when you're listening to who you really are, those choices become a whole lot more fun and a whole lot easier.

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Our theme for what is now season 4 is intrinsic values. What your character is doing when you look yourself in the mirror. And if you're new to the podcast, welcome. If you're a continuing listener, welcome back.

This is now the second contributor interview to our February mini series called Broadcasting Value. Basically, what we're showcasing is how creators, how innovators, how influencers broadcast their personal values into their brands.

Maybe on a podcast, maybe on a radio station, or maybe just into their own businesses. And so this particular interview, she helps professionals create a fun lifestyle of real energy without living on lattes as she likes to say.

Her name's miss Sherry Trexler. Now she's a certified health coach certified personal trainer, and also more appropriately to this particular mini series, the host of a podcast called real wellness.

So if you're curious how all that fits together, stay tuned, and we'll be all miss Sherry in just a second. Without further ado, folks on Porter. I'm your host. And this is transacting value.

Sherry, how are you doing? I am doing great, actually. It's a cloudy day here in Nashville, Tennessee, but at least I was able to get out this morning and get some cardio in, get a walk in between all the rain showers.

Yeah. Counts for a lot. We've got pretty crazy weather here in Virginia in the last couple days. That's actually also we had a cold front. I have a, like, a tent structure in the backyard.

Is lawn equipment and and whatever stuff in it? Yeah. I also have a little squirrel feeder on the front porch. It's not bolted down. It's not attached anything. Okay. This tent has a steel and aluminum structure.

It's now on the ground after the last 3 days. Totally broken in half. And the squirrel feeder didn't move an inch. That is bizarre. Yeah. That I can visualize it though because make me think about growing up.

I grew up in in middle Tennessee. And I remember there were a lot of New Year's Day January first that we would go on a picnic in short Tennessee shirt and then 4 days later be out of school for snow. Howard Bauchner: Yeah.

Yeah. It's it's been that chaotic here too. I'm normally originally from Florida. So it's wet or wetter, and that's it. But we still have swings. Right? Every afternoon, there's a thunderstorm guaranteed around 3 or 04:00.

It's a little bit windy. It's mostly hot and humid, and that's the variation. Right? So for the most part, you can bank on it. But there's always the off day when you're like, this is gonna be a great 75 degree day and it turns into 43.

So Right. Yeah. You never know. But what we're talking about where you're from and what we're talking about some of your memories.

Let's talk about a little bit of relatability. So I can see you for everybody listening. We're on a video call right now. But they can't see you and they may not know who you are, let alone what real wellness discusses.

So take a couple of minutes, the floor is yours, who you are, maybe a little bit more about where you're from and what sort of come together to shape your perspective?

Well, I did grow up here in Tennessee. I lived some other places, but I had lived here for the majority of my life, grew up on a farm.

So I've had all the early morning, but it was really more early early 3 mornings for going to school. My dad was the 1 who was kind enough to go take care of the cattle.

He didn't make us do that at 4AM. I'm very grateful for that. So we had to do weekends. Dig the, you know, post holes and all that kind of stuff. Mhmm. And through all of that, learned a real love for physical movement.

Whether it was traditional exercise like I mentioned walking this morning. I have a love for walking, jogging, things like that because I grew up doing that with my mom.

She was my first walking partner. I just that that's how in my mind you get to feel good physically and you get to talk to people if you're walking with somebody else and get to know them.

The downside though in growing up was I did grow up with the diet mentality and we can get into that more later if you want to because my family while we were physically active we also definitely believe in diet.

We definitely believe in deprive yourself and go for this goal normally it was weight loss. And that was just it wasn't a healthy way to grow up.

I went on my first site when I was 9 years old. Just to lose 2 pounds, not because there was anything medical going on. It was just that's what the women in my family did. So that's what I started doing.

And went on through college and undergrad and grad school. And in my twenties, figured out that, okay, this isn't working. The physical part of it is working. I ran cross country in college, so I have a really funny story on that too.

Do you mind if I go into that story? Because I love telling this funny thing on myself? No. Not at all. Go ahead. Okay. So I was running a Rand Cross Century in college, which sounds like, oh, wow. She's this athlete.

No. I like to run. And I went to a little bitty school here in Nashville. It's not a little anymore, but it was a little at the time, Belmont. And to qualify for a cross country race, you had to have 5 people on your team completed.

We only had 4 women on the team. So the cross country coach came up to me and he goes, Sherry, I know you like to run. Would you be willing to be on our team?

Now, I know you're Hello. But as long as you can finish every race, I was like, I don't know how encouraging that is to get somebody on your you need to tell them, I know you're slow, but Yes. But anyway, so I did.

And I kept my promise. I finished every race. There was 1 race. I truly finished dead last. But I did finish. So, yeah, I've got a love of health and wellness from my whole life, but also the dark side of it being a diet mentality.

So when you say a diet mentality, just for clarity, because I'm not, I guess, too committed to eating a certain way where I'm, you know, portioning foods or, I don't know, rationalizing my decisions or or anything in between weighing things, whatever.

But so to me when you say diet, that means it's not all a bad thing or for any particular reason it's just watching what you eat and being more active or conscious in the decisions about what you put in your body.

But I'm I'm a hundred percent certain that there are also other schools of thought that say a diet is a bad thing and it means you know, cut weight, sweat suits, and saran wrap, and then only eating whatever celery and water.

Brake and sausage soup or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So when when you say, for 1, dieting at 6, but through college, you know, there's a lot of unhealthy habits. And obviously, sticklers that can come with that too, the adderall crazes and and other things to help -- Oh, yeah.

-- speed that process up or metabolically speed that process up. What do you mean? What are you talking about? Yeah. Great clarification. So glad that you asked.

When I say diet mentality, I don't mean where you are being kind to yourself. Where you're saying, you know, whenever I eat really spicy food or whenever I you know, rush around and eat. I end up with indigestion.

Or, oh, wow. Whenever I eat, it's what I call a powerful place that I teach my client whenever I'm eating a balanced meal in in this form, I feel amazing. That's being kind to yourself. That's not setting this external rule.

But a diet mentality is this thought that you go into a book store or you listen to a guru who says, you need to eat this way, this particular combination without taking into account your lifestyle, without taking into account what you enjoy, what fits you, and you layer on this set of external rules The problem is with that is from a mental standpoint, you as an individual were designed to have authority autonomy in certain areas of your life.

And what you put in your body is 1 of those areas. So whenever you layer on these external rules to that, you're immediately gonna wanna break against those rules for the sake of autonomy, for your own sense of agency.

Versus an internal guidance, an internal cue of, you know, I really don't feel good when I eat x or I feel great when I eat y and listening to that. Does that help clarify any other clarifications? Yeah. Yeah.

It does. And you said these gurus though. I mean, that's the stigma you're fighting. I mean, you're the guru. You know what I mean? That's your that those are your friends. The people that's your direct competition almost, you know.

So Mhmm. So as, I don't know, maybe even a self imposed barrier to entry, like, you still have to climb that hill. Whether it's a cold call or a returning client or whatever. So on 1 hand, let me back up.

So for anybody listening, if you haven't listened to transacting value before, I'm also currently active duty in the Marine Corps. And part of my role, you could call it, a collateral duty, at least that's what we call it.

Is what we consider a force fitness instructor. And so our focus is basically helping Marines, coaching Marines how to be more physically fit, mentally fit, spiritually fit, to just be more holistically essentially.

I'm not a licensed dietitian. I'm not a licensed nutritionist or really license any of those things outside of the Marine Corps except for CrossFit.

But aside from that, what I have found out over the last I don't know, 6, 7 years of doing this now is that the more fluid, simple, custom tailored you can make a program or a process the more likely somebody's gonna stick with it, especially to your point, if you can revolve it around what people already want to accomplish.

They're you know, motivations or inspirations or whatever as well, not -- Yeah. -- comparing them to other people or other people's benchmarks. Already folks sit tight and we'll be right back on transacting value.

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What I have found out over the last, well, I don't know, 6, 7 years of doing this now is that the more fluid simple custom tailored you can make a program or a process, the more likely somebody's gonna stick with it, especially, to your point, if you can revolve it around what people already want to accomplish.

They're, you know, motivations or or inspirations or whatever as well, not.

Yep. Comparing them to other people or other people's benchmarks. But you have to sort of push that you know, I'm sure you have people that come talk to you all the time, like, well, what do you think about the South Beach diet?

Or should I try paleo or, you know, but it's probably more based on what was popularized or -- Yeah. -- you know, so Whatever the Fed is then. Yeah. And so 1 thing I found, which I think let me rule this back for a second.

Well, here's something. I just learned it. I don't know. 2 weeks ago, I think demographics, when you're measuring a podcast audience or as a producer or a business or marketing in general are the what's the objective stuff.

You know, the What's your age? What's your height? What's your weight? What's your shoe size type stuff? Where do you live? Regional considerations? Maybe cultural to a degree as well?

And I think when it comes to fitness, that has to come into play because if you don't have a lot of high protein sources in your environment, Well, then you have to find a way to supplement to a degree.

Right? Mhmm. But a couple weeks ago, I learned about this term called psychographics.

I was unfamiliar with the word and so for anybody listening, psychographics is the values, the belief system, the extra stuff that helps people either self identify or assimilate into a culture or whatever as people not as humans as individuals.

Right? So -- Mhmm. -- Sherry, I've got a question for you before we move further into your rear choice, and maybe this even ties more into your podcast as well. But this is a segment of the show I like to call developing character.

No. Developing character. Anyone? Yeah. Alright. Here's how it works. So there's 3 questions. And it's entirely as vulnerable or as in-depth of an answer as you want them to be. And for the record, I never really thought about it.

Is equally acceptable an answer? Alright. So this first question though, we're going into the past. Alright? What were some of your values then as a kid or as an early teenager growing up?

Absolute number 1 was discipline. But it was I'll go ahead and say this. Looking back, it was a misunderstood good application of discipline, but that was 100 percent that was it.

I mean, quick story on thinking of that is I remember, I think I was fifth or sixth grade. I had a fever of a hundred and 2. I was like, oh, wait, I've not done my core work.

No. We didn't call it core work then. We call it crunches and ad work, but I was like, I'm not done that. So I roll out of bed to get that in even though I had a hundred and 2 whatever fever.

Howard Bauchner: I see. Yeah. And so the application of that discipline actually to maybe your detriment Absolutely. Hundred percent. Yeah. It was not being kind to myself. Mhmm.

Yeah. It has to be a give and take. I'm and I'll tell you this firsthand, especially Coming from my perspective into Marine Corps, I'm not speaking for a whole bunch of other marines, just my perspective for anybody listening to this.

But if, for example, 6 months out of any given year, we have a fitness test that also includes running A5K for time.

The majority of the warm ups that I've observed for said 5 k include Okay. Well, a quick stretch. And then when do we start the time?

And that's it. There have been to the Marine Corps credit if they listen to this, huge strides made actually, which is why now the human performance division exists and force fitness instructors and all that to work on dynamic warm ups.

And and just educating, But the alpha mentality is still there.

You know, there's still gorillas walking around that are no offense to gorillas, but that are walking around. Who, you know, pounder chest. I'm 25. I'm young. I don't need to warm up. I don't need to stretch after people.

In the framework also. And so, yeah, I get now what you're saying about, I guess, a misunderstood application of discipline. You know. Sure. And it's easy to slide into, but I I don't wanna cut off your your stage light here.

What are some other values maybe growing up that resonated? Well, I mean, there was definitely love, love a family, love a friend. There was a dream, a what can you be with your life, more of a passion type thing that was big as well?

But truly overarching with discipline. I mean, that was and I can't even my brother was navy, my father was air force but I don't even think that that played into it. I think it was just worth me personally.

Sure. Sure. Yeah. I get that. And on 1 hand, you know, self imposed discipline is is a good thing. Brush your teeth before you go to bed. Nobody should need to tell you to make your bed when you leave for the day or whatever.

You know, little things. But those things add up, you start building habits of action, and it really can strengthen your overall resiliency or self image or whatever.

And so to that point, Sherry, then present day. Question number 2, what are some values that you aspire to embody or that resonate with you now?

Well, discipline is still part of it, but it's layered with the wisdom. Mhmm. And and I would say that I know that when you and I have talked, we've talked about the values that you're focusing on in this season of the podcast.

And 2 of those really jumped out at me. And then I realized, actually, the third 1 is the answer. So I'm going to walk you through how I thought through this.

So -- Yeah, please. -- kindness is where discipline got misapplied. That if you look at how am I being kind to myself, my current self and how am I being kind to my future self.

So thinking about it from the eating standpoint we were talking about a minute ago is Okay, how can I be kind to myself right now with what I'm eating that, oh, this is this tastes amazing?

I'm focused on really savoring it and enjoying it and not just, you know, shoving it down so I can get onto the next project.

How am I being kind of myself right now with food, how am I being kind to myself right now with movement, sleep, whatever. But then also, how am I being kind to my future self? And that was where the discipline got misapplied.

It was always a who cares about who you are right now. Let's think about the future. Well, no, I've really learned through 50 years of living now that you have to take care of the you now and be kind to the you now.

If you're even gonna be around mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically, then to have a future self.

And the passion is where discipline comes in in my mind, where I'm passionate about the future So I'm gonna discipline myself now because passion means suffering.

And okay. So at what level am I willing to suffer? But then there's this harmony. So at first, I was like, harmony, no.

That's not a big value for me. But when I looked at it, I realized, no. Actually, harmony is kind of the answer. Because it's the harmony between kindness to yourself, kindness to yourself now and kindness to yourself in the future.

And passion the discipline of what you're willing to go through to have what you want in life. It's that harmony, it's that meeting of those 2 things that, oh, this is with them. This actually work when you bring those together.

Does that make sense? Yeah. In fact, the only thing that doesn't make sense about what you just said is when you said in your fifties, because nobody else can see you, but would have taken 20 years off you easily.

So whatever you're doing -- Oh, thank you. Yeah. -- you are now my best friend.

I appreciate that. Yeah. I do not mind saying, I'm 52. Yeah. No. So whatever you're doing apparently works. But okay. Well, we're talking about the future. Let me hit question 3. So question 3, we're moving into the future.

Okay? It's pretty simple. How do you see your values changing over the next 20 years? I wanna be my best friend. And I want to make sure that everybody I come in contact with has the self love of being their best friend.

And by best friend, it's that sense of, again, you're doing you're talking to your self well now, you're being kind to yourself well now. Get your help out for your own best interest later.

2, it just takes away all of that self beating, all of that self deferration, and the negative sense, all of that that I'm not good enough, the lack of self worth that a lot of people have that I certainly dealt with in my life Just that is, if I could say anything for my future value, it would be my best friend and help everybody else be their own best friend.

I went back to Toy Story for a second here, but but I agree with agree with what you're saying.

It's difficult, though. I guess what's difficult is the kindness aspect of that. What's easy is being the devil's advocate best friend to yourself.

Gotcha. You know, that's the natural part. Like, some of my best friends are in my own head as far as that's concerned, but finding the support network within yourself and the confidence that has to come with that.

Being able to rely on yourself or your own judgment, it's tricky.

But for anybody listening, whatever small changes you can make towards a healthier lifestyle and a consistently healthier lifestyle, helps balance some of that out, at least in my experience.

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Being able to rely on yourself or your own judgment, that's tricky. But for anybody listening, whatever Small changes you can make towards a healthier lifestyle and a consistently healthier lifestyle helps balance some of that out.

At least in my experience, Is that sort of something? You've given me 2 things to jump on now. That is so good. So 1 relating to the, you know, trusting yourself and being what was the phrase you use?

It was so good about just it wasn't making your own decisions, but it was thinking for yourself How was it you phrased that? Not sure. K. So everybody rewinded the podcast and listened to whatever it was.

He said a moment ago. Yeah. And insert that right now with what I'm relating to. And when it's about trusting yourself and being kind to yourself, trusting yourself, having that self assurance, that confidence.

Again, I have learned the hard way that there is and anybody in here who knows survival, you're going to recognize this out of proverbs.

There are several proverbs, ancient proverbs that talk about a multitude of counselors. And that don't go to war without a multitude of counselors. If you just think about that, you think about okay, I can't trust myself.

I'm supposed to listen to all these other people. But if you do that, you're gonna get off track. I have gone and I know other people have gone the opposite direction where they Okay.

I'm just gonna trust myself and not listen to other people. But it takes both listening to a multitude of counselors and then guess who is in control of your life.

1 person you. So you get this multitude of counselors, but then you ultimately have to make the decision based on that. Thoughts on that before I go to what you said about taking a little step Nope.

Sounds an awful lot like harmony to me. Okay. There we go. Great. Thank you. Yeah. It's so funny that I didn't I was looking at harmony going, oh, that's not a value, but it just keeps coming up.

Okay. So you're talking about making a little step. This is and it's actually something I just talked about on my podcast on real wellness.

Is making a micro commitment whenever you are taking those little steps in health and wellness. And too often, we think of, oh, well, if I can't go run if I pay if I can't go run if I pay for time, then what's the point?

You know, why am I even doing this? But when it comes to health and wellness, it's the little thing and to make a healthy habit stick.

You've got to start with what I call a micro commitment, and let me explain that. It's when you have something that is so minuscule, so tiny, you know you can do it no matter what happens in life.

It's okay. My goal is to do A5K per time. But my micro commitment is, I'm gonna put them on running shoes and step out the front door every day.

Whether I go run or not, doesn't matter. Of course, 99 times out of a hundred, you're gonna go do your run. But it's forming that habit of doing that.

Or if it is I'm going to drink 12 cups of water a day. You know, so 64 plus a half, so 30, 90, hundred ounces of water, whatever. That may be your goal, but your micro commitment is, you fill up a water bottle every day.

Whether you drink it or not. It's because you've got to train your brain that this is who I am. Whenever you have something on your health and wellness to do list, you will not move mountains to check something off your to do list.

But once you have done something for a while and you begin to see yourself as an exerciser or somebody who eats well or somebody who drinks water on a regular basis or somebody who go to bed on time or whatever it is, once you see yourself that way, you will move mountain to line up with your identity.

Like, note, guys, I'm heading back to go to bed early because that's how you see yourself. So those micro commitments, those baby steps, aren't just oh, they're little baby steps. No.

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Keep those every day. We've got some sayings in the Marine Corps similar to that point of micro commitments. Oh, yummy. Yeah. Well, they're sort of tenants. I guess you could say, where habits of thought lead to habits of action.

And then there's this saying about brilliance in the basics, which I'll be honest with you for the first couple years in my career, All I did were the basics, and I didn't feel any more brilliant. I just got bored.

Right? Yeah. But As I've spent more time in growing and matured a little bit, there's a lot more to that, where it's not just in the physical ability to conduct something or to shoot with precision or do whatever applies.

But sort of like you brought up the wisdom behind that a habit of thought that you develop, the inherent discipline that's developed as a result, sort of like the difference between professionals and amateurs.

You know, to practice 10000 free throws to not think about it the 1 time you need it.

And a lot of that requires those little micro commitments. You know, we had contributor in the last season. I think it was in July. His name's Ernie, and he's jazz percussionist.

In Toronto. Ernie, I'm sorry if I forget, but in Canada. And so you played the drums. Right? But 1 of the points that he brought up in that particular interview was that nobody's put chains on you.

So the majority of whatever you find to be a setback is probably self imposed. Now don't get me wrong and no offense to amputees, but with no arms, you're not walking on your hands. You don't have them. Right?

Like, there's some things that just it'll just be what it is until you train to that and and condition and find ways that do work for you to accomplish what you want to accomplish because those boundaries and those thresholds then are still ultimately just self imposed.

And the hard things that were hard yesterday become easy once you do them, and they're no harder than anything else because you've done them once.

That'll freak. Yeah. And it's things like that that not to dive into it, but I remember the the first time I I had It had to have been close to probably a hundred and 50 pounds in a pack.

And this was somewhere around, not sure, maybe a 10 mile hike. Yeah. Well, I'm, especially at the time, 01:41 50. It was already more than like, I couldn't get up off the ground. I had to have 2 guys help me get up once my pack was on.

Alright? And then walk. I came in last. It was a training hike. Right? So luckily, there were no crazy repercussions, but but I came in last out of hundreds of people And I didn't start there.

K? But I'll tell you, it wasn't the last hike I ever went on, and it certainly isn't now. And now, I'm not volunteering. I still don't like them, but I'm not gonna not do them.

And now -- Yeah. -- obviously, I'm stronger, and I know better how to cope with that mentally as well. So Yeah. It sounds sort of cliche now, but, yeah, micro commitments, to your words, make macro changes with consistency.

Yeah. Yeah. It's it's Well, I'm feeling that freight. I'm feeling that freight. I like that. Micro commitments made macro changes. Yes. Yeah. No problem.

Something something else you said that it was really good about the first time that you do it, whatever it is, seems monumental and really hard. But after you've done it a hundred times, it's the same thing, but it doesn't seem so hard.

And anytime I'm starting something new, like whenever you can relate to this when I started my podcast, you know, the things in that that seemed really overwhelming challenging whatever.

I had to tell myself, okay, a year from now, this is going to be easy. So just pretend it's a year from now.

And so relating it to health and wellness, it's okay, I'm cooking these veggies or I'm doing something I haven't done before or haven't done often. After I've done this a hundred times, it will not be quite so confusing or overwhelming.

So, you know, 1 thing is what can I do now to make it easier on the front end, micro commitments are 1 of the ways to do that? But just again to what your point is of It's not always gonna be this way. It's not always gonna be hard.

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You know, 1 thing is what can I do now to make it easier on the front end, micro commitments or 1 of the ways to do that? But just again to what your point is of it's not always gonna be this way.

It's not always gonna be hard. No. No. It won't. It may always be challenging. But challenging doesn't mean hard. Right. So to that point, I guess, then how do you take some of your personal values?

Let's say, like, discipline or passion and and put them into your brand, and put them into your podcast, and broadcast them to your clients and to your audience. How do you do that? Great question.

1 actually is in the title itself. The podcast, I specifically chose real wellness because it's for real people in their real lifestyle. It's things that are truly doable. It's that it's here's how you're being kind to yourself.

Yes, it's gonna require some discipline, but Discipline can be doable. Disciplined doesn't have to be something you dread. And especially if you don't misuse it the way that I did, I've learned from that.

Is let's layer it, let's put some harmony with that for kindness to yourself. So in the title is 1, the episodes themselves I talk about intuitive eating. I'm a certified intuitive eating counselor.

So I talk about intuitive eating and listening to your body versus listening to those external diet rules. I'm in a series right now on making Healthy Habit sick, turning your resolutions into reality.

And that's where Microcommitment was 1 of the episodes in that. That's why that's really fresh from my mind. So it's just marrying, yes, we have to make choices that may or may not be easy in a moment.

But when we're listening to our truth self, when you're listening to who you really are, those choices become a whole lot more fun and a whole lot easier.

Sure do. Because then you're not thinking about all the little detailed steps you gotta do to get it right. More often than not by then, you're doing it right enough to start enjoying the process.

Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of it is, sometimes the discipline is not disciplined to do a checklist of how many cards, how many grams of protein, how many go through that.

Sometimes the discipline is to turn off those external voices and listen to, wow, you know what? Yesterday, I had 3 servings of this or 2 and and I felt really great or I felt really bad.

And the discipline to listen to your own body with them. Yeah. You know, it's seldom, I guess, that you start finding friends that are actually wise, not the ones that just profess to be.

And I think as we grow up as people, the best friend mentality you brought up earlier in your own head as you talk to yourself and, you know, arrange your thoughts and sort of self actualize?

I think at least in my experience, I started out with a lot of friends in my head that actually weren't as wise as they thought they were.

Yeah. Yeah. They were the ones that said, hey, I got a really good idea, and this is gonna be great.

We had a lot of fun together, but they're not in my circle of mental friends anymore. That's good. Yeah. But you're you are definitely pointing up something really interesting.

Those friends in our heads versus the friends in our gut. What do you mean? Because when I'm saying and I don't mean gut, your physical gut. I mean, like, that gut sense.

Right. Whenever you are having for me anyway, like, let's take that all the way back whenever I was fifth or sixth grade and a hundred and 2 fever doing crunches. I'm sure I was listening to my head that said, you've got this checklist.

You're supposed to do XYZ, get out of the bed and do it. But if I had listened to my gut, to my innermost being, it was probably saying, you know what, 1 day getting this is not gonna be bad.

It's probably wiser for you to stay in bed and just rest. So that listening to the wisdom of your body is not listening to the voices in your head as much as it is listening to that gut check.

Yeah. There's I'm pretty sure it's a Chinese philosophy and I can't remember exactly what it's called off the top of my head, but the gist of it is that the sort of controlling feature in your body is not your brain.

It's your heart because your brain can get distracted. Arty folks sit tight and we'll be right back on transacting value.

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The place with the boiled peanuts. It's a Chinese philosophy and I can't remember exactly what it's called off top of my head, but the gist of it is that the sort of controlling feature in your body is not your brain.

It's your heart because your brain can get distracted. And I I think it's a lot of the same of the points you're bringing up. Oh, gosh. That is good. I'm gonna have to research and look that up.

That's good. Yeah. Can't remember. And for anybody listening, feel free to send me an email. I'll swivel dot y t at g mail dot com, and I'll forward it out to Sherry, you know, you can help her make new friends.

But yeah, whatever it was, it's the same principle that you're bringing up now though, which I think ultimately is telling you know, for people, let's say in your case, in the middle of the United States, to people, the opposite side of the globe, having a similar thought with totally different cultures, backgrounds, perspective, languages, whatever?

Well, then it can't be that far off the mark of being more appropriate or accurate than not. Yep.

So saying that, Sherry, I guess, when we're talking about it for the sake of time, If people do wanna reach out to you, either to get in touch as potential clients or to listen to your podcast or just get more information, How do they do it?

The 2 best ways are my website, and I'll rattle it off here, and then I'm sure you can probably put it in show note 2 is ZCHE vireo, VIRE0, life, LISE, dot com.

Vivirio life. In Virio means I flourish, I thrive, I am strong and active. So if you want that kind of life, Go land on my website.

My podcast also lives on my website so you can pretty much everything is housed there and then reach out to me either through email SHERI at the varioLife dot com or I'm on all social media except for Twitter.

I've never never landed there, but Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, LinkedIn, very active on those, so retail. Alright. Perfect. And, yeah, for everybody listening, we will have all of those links linked in the show notes as well.

So be able to pull that stuff up And obviously, if for whatever reason you can't get ahold of Sherry and there's just issues or whatever, feel free to reach out to transacting value and we'll get you guys in touch and then you guys can go and sharpen each other's iron after that, so to speak.

So, saying that though, Sherry, I really appreciate the opportunity.

And to to just have this conversation, to learn more obviously about your perspective, but specific to transacting value, how you've taken discipline and kindness and harmony passion and incorporated them into your brand.

And ultimately, I think, to show that talking about values doesn't have to be in some sort of civics or humanities classroom.

And the fact that they still have a role, you know, you can make whatever decisions and whatever application you want for them but being able to identify them can help guide you and channel you into more productive directions throughout the rest of your life.

So for all of those reasons, thank you for your time. Thank you, and it's been a pleasure. Yeah. No problem at all.

And folks to everybody else who is listening to this, I'd also like to thank you for tuning in And for just listening and staying along with the conversation, if there is anything else that you wanna hear about topics or otherwise, like I said, to get in touch cherry, feel free to send an email to survival dad y t at gmail dot com.

And I'd also like to thank you for listening into our core values for February. Of kindness, passion, and harmony. And then for this now, what is our first mini series to broadcasting value?

So let me first also say thank you to your series making Healthy Habit stick and because you brought them up earlier to your dad and your brother and I'm sort of tied into the navy and the air force.

I'd also like to thank them for their inspiration into your life and furthering and fostering your perspective, so that's huge as well.

But to our show partners, Keystone, Farmers Market, Hoof and Clubaker Farm, and obviously Buzz for your distribution I couldn't do without you guys either. So thank you very much.

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Until next time, Oakes, that was transacting value.